The_Kincardine Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: Does Scotland return a number of MPs from various parties? No. There is no regionalisation in WM elections and I know you don't think there is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: 'Scotland' has no vote in WM elections and to suggest otherwise is silly. What do you think you've added to this thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 No. There is no regionalisation in WM elections and I know you don't think there is. So you don't consider Scotland a country. That's all we needed to know. I'm done. This is beyond boring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shades75 said: What do you think you've added to this thread? Apart from my charm and good looks? I've corrected the notion that we elect PMs and have pointed out that Scots' influence in WM goes way beyond its electorate. And you? Aside from being wrong...what's your own contribution? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: So you don't consider Scotland a country. That's all we needed to know. In WM elections? Of course not. Nor should you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: No. There is no regionalisation in WM elections and I know you don't think there is. So why do you continually bang on about the place of birth of a few of our PM's? You can't argue that there is no regionalisation whilst also stating that Scottish PM's are over-represented. In addition, you don't even begin to address the fact thet some of these PM's would be likely to tick the "British not Scottish" or "More British than Scottish" box in any survey. Finally, after EVEL, do you consider it likely that a MP representing a Scottish constituency will ever be asked to be PM again? If not, do you not consider this to be an example of regionalisation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Apart from my charm and good looks? I've corrected the notion that we elect PMs and have pointed out that Scots' influence in WM goes way beyond its electorate. And you? Aside from being wrong...what's your own contribution? Like the proverbial pigeon who plays chess with a grandmaster. The pigeon knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board and struts about with his chest puffed out as if he won the game. Edited May 1, 2017 by Shades75 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Finally, after EVEL, do you consider it likely that a MP representing a Scottish constituency will ever be asked to be PM again? If not, do you not consider this to be an example of regionalisation? An MP representing a Scottish constituency had no place in my thinking but I don't see why it matters. The best option should be asked by Her Maj to form a government irrespective of his/her nationality/location of constituency. EVEL won't change this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1) I'm still awaiting your answer as to when Lizzy appointed Heath in 1974. 2) How can a second class MP who is barred from voting on WM legislation affecting England only provide leadership to his or her party on these vital constitutional matters, especially if he or she doesn't command a majority without said second class MP's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Shades75 said: Your welcome to your opinion. Mine differs. Yes, yours differs from your own in the same hour. 11 hours ago, Shades75 said: The voters vote for the PM... 11 hours ago, Shades75 said: None voted for May.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, strichener said: Yes, yours differs from your own in the same hour. The opinion in question was the one that defined your original post as tedious and pedantic. I granted you a clarification that, admittedly, none had voted for May. My context, though, was that when voters go to the polls they vote for who they want as PM, and that PM is known to have been elected by the people who voted. Do keep up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Well it's no Seamus Heaney that's for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, kilbowie2002 said: I could have possibly understood your point, not agreed with however, right up until EVEL, there is a very big distinction made by the WM government with respect to EVEL which absolutely assures that Scotland is considered a national entity in Westminster therefore imho your 'we just vote for our constituency mp' and 'Scotland has no regional vote' stuff is utter shite, WM made it about Scotland with EVEL you're deluded to think otherwise. This is a very good point. With EVEL, there are no 'British MPs' anymore. Ironic and sickening as the sheer numerical dominance of English MPs means they can outvote us any time they wish to. In reality this is the argument for independence in a nutshell - from both English and Scottish points of view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 After yesterdays hushed up story about Mays husband making a tidy profit on some of Mrs Mays decisions,we now have this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Yup. More Tory sleaze. £5m of HSBC loans have been laundered directly to Conservative Party HQ. Even Peston is onto it. Good on Roger Mullin. Here's hoping the end product of all this is an indy Scotland and RUK under Corbyn rule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Crùbag said: Yup. More Tory sleaze. £5m of HSBC loans have been laundered directly to Conservative Party HQ. Even Peston is onto it. Good on Roger Mullin. Here's hoping the end product of all this is an indy Scotland and RUK under Corbyn rule. Peston is a shambles....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Just now, McSpreader said: Peston is a shambles....... Peston is just the latest messenger. Tories are up to their necks in it. From child abuse cover-ups to money-laundering scandals. Jeezo. Oh, mind the pig's head too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Just now, Crùbag said: Peston is just the latest messenger. Tories are up to their necks in it. From child abuse cover-ups to money-laundering scandals. Jeezo. Oh, mind the pig's head too. Yes not a fan of the Tories.....and yet my local Scottish Conservative candidate is on course to get my vote....! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, McSpreader said: Yes not a fan of the Tories.....and yet my local Scottish Conservative candidate is on course to get my vote....! Obviously. That is because you are a unionist. The conservative party in Scotland are the party of the union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Crùbag said: Yup. More Tory sleaze. £5m of HSBC loans have been laundered directly to Conservative Party HQ. Even Peston is onto it. Good on Roger Mullin. Here's hoping the end product of all this is an indy Scotland and RUK under Corbyn rule. It will be interesting to see if this is pursued or left to slide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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