Theyellowbox Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Roll forward a few years where the government are actively encouraging folk to have kids as we have a pension crisis, lack of working age population and still no HGV drivers. The government have not a single idea of the real world. Go take a look at the stv interview from today about the £20 and you can see in Johnsons face he has no concept of real world money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 “Woke” and its variations are slowly replacing “socialism” as the right wings go to ‘stuff I don’t like’ word. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, coprolite said: Just say there was a mass movement, what could it accomplish? Short of an armed takeover and ruling by coercion, the best outcome would be to force an election. Against Keith. Pyrrhic as f**k. It's an economic and demographic problem. A lot of pensions need funded. I dont think it solves the pension issue, it just kicks the can further down the road 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 “Woke” and its variations are slowly replacing “socialism” as the right wings go to ‘stuff I don’t like’ word. The Right have been quite good over time at doing this, weaponising terms in the mainstream that pose threats to their odious shitebag views. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: “Woke” and its variations are slowly replacing “socialism” as the right wings go to ‘stuff I don’t like’ word. It's much easier to use as a dismissive insult than "socialist", which can be broadly defined in terms that most people understand here. I don't get the impression that most of the people tossing words like "woke" around have much of an idea what it means, other than "someone who publicly disagrees with my right-wing views". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Marxist was the Tory insult of choice for a while, but it looks like woke is here to stay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, BFTD said: It's much easier to use as a dismissive insult than "socialist", which can be broadly defined in terms that most people understand here. I don't get the impression that most of the people tossing words like "woke" around have much of an idea what it means, other than "someone who publicly disagrees with my right-wing views". The danger (for normal folk) is that “woke” is bound up with race in a way “socialist” (boo! Be scared!) was not. By demonising folk as “woke”, the alt-right are successfully enabling racism by suggesting that ethnic minorities and their supporters are a viable target. I don’t think I’m exaggerating by saying that “woke” is the 21st-century version of “n-word-lover”. It’s fucking insidious and terrifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Don't mind folk just pointing at things they don't like and using woke as a pejorative. It makes it easier to identify dribbling simpletons with unpleasant right wing views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Namond Brice said: Don't mind folk just pointing at things they don't like and using woke as a pejorative. It makes it easier to identify dribbling simpletons with unpleasant right wing views. I dunno, do we really need it when people still use the term ‘snowflake’ unironically? Seems like overkill having both 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Marxist was the Tory insult of choice for a while, but it looks like woke is here to stay. "Marxist" is such an odd insult. I see that's occasionally being thrown at Biden in the US, which is hilarious. You think they'd head straight for "Stalinist". Most folk would agree that he was a c**t. Just now, Antlion said: The danger (for normal folk) is that “woke” is bound up with race in a way “socialist” (boo! Be scared!) was not. By demonising folk as “woke”, the alt-right are successfully enabling racism by suggesting that ethnic minorities and their supporters are a viable target. I don’t think I’m exaggerating by saying that “woke” is the 21st-century version of “n-word-lover”. It’s fucking insidious and terrifying. Is it? I got the impression it was broader than that; more of a replacement for "virtue signaller". Because, as you'll know, we all secretly hold their abhorrent views, but don't want to admit it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 do people use it that much? the impression is given theres some sort of culture war going on but it deosnt seem like that to me in the "real" world opposed to some internet, social media shite thats even then is hardly anyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, BigDoddyKane said: do people use it that much? the impression is given theres some sort of culture war going on but it deosnt seem like that to me in the "real" world opposed to some internet, social media shite thats even then is hardly anyone You would absolutely pish yourself laughing if someone accused you of being "woke" in real life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) yet some people spend a lot of time talking about it , it seems. back in the real world though Edited October 4, 2021 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, BFTD said: "Marxist" is such an odd insult. I see that's occasionally being thrown at Biden in the US, which is hilarious. You think they'd head straight for "Stalinist". Most folk would agree that he was a c**t. Is it? I got the impression it was broader than that; more of a replacement for "virtue signaller". Because, as you'll know, we all secretly hold their abhorrent views, but don't want to admit it. It tends to get bound up with people who dare to support BLM. Case in point, apparently barely a few minutes into Jeremy Vine’s alt-right love-in this morning, far-right gobshite Angela Epstein turned a discussion of Sarah Everard’s horrific murder into an attack on the woke polis daring to take the knee. Utterly irrelevant, you might think - until you realise what she was really saying. As the same show taught us last week, tolerance is bad and “minorities in every area need squashed” (this from another regular). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I dunno, they actually tried to set up a specifically 'anti woke' tv channel, unfortunately for them, it's a rolling bin fire. The culture wars are and will continue to be central to the right's political projects. It will be used to divert attention from the government's increasing authoritarianism and clown shoes performances and used to silence the controlled opposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 46 minutes ago, BFTD said: "Marxist" is such an odd insult. I see that's occasionally being thrown at Biden in the US, which is hilarious. You think they'd head straight for "Stalinist". Most folk would agree that he was a c**t. I’m glad you wrote most and not all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, Granny Danger said: I’m glad you wrote most and not all. Big fan personally, as I've been massively prejudiced against Ukraine since the 2006 World Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Good doc on Blair and Brown on BBC4. Seems a long time ago that the Labour party had political heavyweights in their ranks that could win elections. Ultimately they were on the wrong side of history but did some good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I won't rest until someone demands Jake Berry lays out in detail what he means by "Woke-ing from home". I will retract this if he sees how much cinema I've watched while pretending to be clocked on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, BFTD said: "Marxist" is such an odd insult. I see that's occasionally being thrown at Biden in the US, which is hilarious. You think they'd head straight for "Stalinist". Most folk would agree that he was a c**t. Is it? I got the impression it was broader than that; more of a replacement for "virtue signaller". Because, as you'll know, we all secretly hold their abhorrent views, but don't want to admit it. "liberal" as an insult, especially in murica, has always struck me as strange; liberal pretty much means you're in favour of trying to make progressive, forward thinking decisions doesnt it?? the dictionary definition certainly suggests so when i looked it up, so why is it seen as a massive insult? Maybe in america its some kind of "them liberals can take my .50 cal murderrifle from me over my COLD DEAD HANDS" thing, idk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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