1320Lichtie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 We tried something different on Saturday though - with 3 at the back, two attacking wing backs and Linn and Ramsay fairly pushed up to support Rutherford. Until Ricky was sent off and we had to change it to a flat 4 at the back, it was working well and we were fairly on top and creating far more chances than in previous weeks. The majority reacted to this change, and us looking better/ creating more, by berating the management for not playing 2 upfront. In my opinion we could try a whole host of things, but unless we're playing with 2 upfront it won't be accepted. As has been pointed out, the team at the top of this league play the same formation as us and it doesn't seem a particuar hinderence to them. The only difference between the formation we play and a 4-4-2 is that our number 10 plays in behind the number 9. That is literally the ONLY difference. One of the ideas behind this is the number 10 can be more creative, and drop to help the midfield create while also being able to push up and support the striker when required. Our problem, in my opinion, is that tactically we're not playing the way the formation we have should dictate. Todd and Hissy both appear to be quoted as blaming players for failing to follow instructions at points, and that to me is completely unacceptable. If that is the case then either the players don't have the ability to follow instructions, or they don't respect what the management are asking them to do. No matter what happens people will berate the management though, that's the stage it has got to! I've seen some comments say that it was a decent change to make but like I said I think most just want to see us get back to basics! And the standard 4-4-2 is as basic as it can get. I agree with what you are saying by the way. Although it makes a massive difference not having two up top when the players just seem to be punting it long. Which is probably why there's still the 2 up top shouts, because when it goes from back to front so quickly we seem to be left with one boy up against 4. And Todd and Hislop blame everybody but themselves, it's what they're best at. Eta: I don't blame any player for the way they've played this season, I don't think that's fair, Todds the guy that signed them and he's pulling the strings and from what I can see the players all certainly seem to be trying their best to play the way they've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtiekev Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I've shouted for 2 up front all season when we play at home, we should attack every team in this league at home and put pressure on teams, our record at gayfield is horrible , the fact we are about the 3rd lowest scorers and our league position shows this formation doesn't work, not one player has worked in the no 10 position and this is down to them not been up to the standard or the game totally by passing them with long ball, it also shown in last few games that Hester can't work alone up front so why when we had the chance on Saturday didn't he have Rutherford and Hester on from the start, don't get me wrong when we go to east fife, Annan, play your 4-2-3-1 and drop some one off to support midfield and be more compact, but at home 4-4-2 is a must, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertolichtie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 The way things are going we will end up with 44/45 points this season and could be the lowest scorers in the league. Clearly 1 or 3 up front hasnt worked so far after 26 games with only 32 points.... Management are far to stuck in the idealism of "the system" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert the bruce Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Rhliston totally agree with you on all your points regarding Dickson contributes nothing from midfield.I can't understand why we are playing pj as full back when we Velraque sitting on the bench Pj would be more effective playing wide right he has pace to hurt most fullbacks.Apart from the east fife game we have been unlucky not to pick up more points a must win on Saturday against Arbroath and see what we can get up at Elgin on tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Afraid i cant agree with PJ being effective at all. Apart from his pace he has very little skill, would rather he was on the bench tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhliston Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Afraid i cant agree with PJ being effective at all. Apart from his pace he has very little skill, would rather he was on the bench tbh Only thing I would put PJ in the team for is his experience, don't think Moses is quite ready to start and with possible injuries to McLear and Ross Smith we could be short of bodies for Saturday and the more experienced players we can start on Saturday the better as we need the 3 points to keep us on track for a possible playoff place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellichtie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I would like to see Hester start up front with Rutherford, they seem to work decently well together and it can hopefully create more chances for us. I think that a lack of support for a lone striker has been a major problem this season, it's all well and good to play with a "system" but at this level surely a simple 4-4-2 should more than suffice. Having too complicated a system at this level of football isn't usually a good way to go imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertolichtie Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I would like to see Hester start up front with Rutherford, they seem to work decently well together and it can hopefully create more chances for us. I think that a lack of support for a lone striker has been a major problem this season, it's all well and good to play with a "system" but at this level surely a simple 4-4-2 should more than suffice. Having too complicated a system at this level of football isn't usually a good way to go imo. Been saying this since before Rutherford was injured. The amount of times Rutherford wins a first ball but no one is near him for a knock on or flick on. Also you would find the majority of the teams above us play 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtielegend Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 To be fair, 4-4-2 worked for Mike Bassett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert the bruce Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 A Clyde fan said on a earlier post that Doris totally bullied both there centre backs when we played them recently.he done the same to the Arbroath back line at gayfield and expect the same from him on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtielegend Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The guy that he really bullied is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerafc Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 To be fair, 4-4-2 worked for Mike Bassett. I think some of the fans would be happy with Mike Basset and his Arbroath will play 4 4 F***ing 2 approach at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The guy that he really bullied is out. Well some other c**t is getting bullied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Well some other c**t is getting bulliedNobody bullies Andy Munro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtie78 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Well some other c**t is getting bulliedFairly confident Andy YLT Munro will be able to handle himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertolichtie Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Only thing Doris will be bulling Saturday is his pie supper on the way home ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vaughn Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 His first or second one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtie78 Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 As long as we play #thearbroathway we should pump Stirling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 As long as we play #thearbroathway we should pump Stirling Been working wonders for you this season Cant see anything but Stirling absolutely pumping the gang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichtie78 Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Been working wonders for you this season Cant see anything but Stirling absolutely pumping the gang That's because we've not been playing #thearbroathway m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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