Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 So if we substitute as you suggest then your sentence would be 3. Corbyn had also breached the requirement to keep paperwork of his tax returns for the statutory period. Which makes no sense whatsoever. Probably have been easier for you to just admit that your original point was factually incorrect. "Records of tax returns" take the form of "paperwork". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Is there a pedants corner on P&B? Edit for predictive texting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Is there a pedants corner on P&B? Edit for predictive texting. P&B is a pedants' corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 You know one day you will shock us all and stop acting like a twat. You've made a simple mistake. He called you out on it. No biggy. Just fucking move on. WTF? Want to show the mistake made? Perhaps you should take your own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 "Records of tax returns" take the form of "paperwork". Well clearly a tax return is a specific document and as I stated there is no statutory period for retaining this document. So just so we are absolutely clear on the accusation, you are claiming that he has not kept the paperwork required by HMRC? If so, I think you will need to provide evidence of this. From what I read, the guy approached HMRC to obtain a copy of his return (which he is perfectly entitled to do) as he did not keep a copy of his return. He subsequently published the actual return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well clearly a tax return is a specific document and as I stated there is no statutory period for retaining this document. So just so we are absolutely clear on the accusation, you are claiming that he has not kept the paperwork required by HMRC? If so, I think you will need to provide evidence of this. From what I read, the guy approached HMRC to obtain a copy of his return (which he is perfectly entitled to do) as he did not keep a copy of his return. He subsequently published the actual return. If I said he had to keep a copy of his tax return, I would said "a copy of", not "records of". That being said, the fact that he had to ask HMRC for a copy of his tax return rather suggests he's failing to keep the relevant records that allowed him to compile it. Which was my point. His inability to keep the requisite records in proper order would be symptomatic of his failure accurately to record his income for self-assessment purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If I said he had to keep a copy of his tax return, I would said "a copy of", not "records of". That being said, the fact that he had to ask HMRC for a copy of his tax return rather suggests he's failing to keep the relevant records that allowed him to compile it. Which was my point. His inability to keep the requisite records in proper order would be symptomatic of his failure accurately to record his income for self-assessment purposes. A tax return is only a form. There is no requirement to retain a copy. It's pretty much useless except as an indicator of how much tax you paid in a current tax year. It, in no way, helps to compile records towards a tax return. It is not indicative of a failure to keep good income and expenditure records to not have a copy of a completed tax return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If I said he had to keep a copy of his tax return, I would said "a copy of", not "records of". That being said, the fact that he had to ask HMRC for a copy of his tax return rather suggests he's failing to keep the relevant records that allowed him to compile it. Which was my point. His inability to keep the requisite records in proper order would be symptomatic of his failure accurately to record his income for self-assessment purposes. Unless of course he wanted to publish his actual tax return. Oh that's right, he did! ETA: So we have now went from him not keeping records to a suggestion that he hasn't kept records. Quite a change in position there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 4. Corbyn had, best of all, failed to declare on his tax return over £400 of income that he had declared with the Commons register of financial interests. Technically both a false declaration which is a crime and tax evasion! Apparently this isn't the case https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/73724/jeremy-corbyn-overstated-income-his-tax-return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Apparently this isn't the case https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/73724/jeremy-corbyn-overstated-income-his-tax-return Fair. Shame. Would have been a more amusing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 OK I made a c*nt of it but don't expect me to apologise. FTTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Is there a pedants corner on P&B? Edit for predictive texting. Chief pedant bring Strichener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Chief pedant bring Strichener.*being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 FTTY I'm really not sure how "fair" in that context can be construed as anything other than admission of inaccuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm really not sure how "fair" in that context can be construed as anything other than admission of inaccuracy."Sorry" is more common. Possibly coupled with "for lying". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 *being.Lol - predictive text and mutton fingers.And a new chief pedant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 "Sorry" is more common. Possibly coupled with "for lying". I didn't lie. The statements were not deliberately untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I didn't lie. The statements were not deliberately untrue.Sorry - I lied (and i knew it😂).Your statement was certainly not vigorously investigated for authenticity. Because It suited your pre-conceived notions not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Sorry - I lied (and i knew it). Your statement was certainly not vigorously investigated for authenticity. Because It suited your pre-conceived notions not to. I never claimed it was vigorously investigated for authenticity. ETA: I saw a newspaper story making the claims and I thought the implications, if true (and at that point there wasn't public information to rebut it that I could immediately see, as the article merely had the Corbyn office saying that they didn't know and would comment when they found out what the commotion was) were amusing, so posted about it. This isn't a courtroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I never claimed it was vigorously investigated for authenticity.I know. You simply repeated some bullshit you found somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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