topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, TxRover said: It is a pretty despicable model, but still not as bad as the ‘Murican version. It’s on steroids over here, with very little acceptance of cremation and even the whole composting/natural movement hasn’t gained much ground here, surprisingly, as it seems tailor-made for appealing to the nuts here. You would think you shat upon their desk if you say you want to be bunged into a cardboard box, tied with a piece of twine and roasted for a few minutes. The look of disgust and pity they play out is amazingly evocative, followed by the pleas to “consider those wishing to “properly” mourn”, etc, etc. Honestly, most of those wishing to properly mourn are either there for the nibbles and seeing if the old b*****d is really dead, or to be able to say they did the “right thing”. Most couldn’t be arsed if it wasn’t in town, and the rest would probably be just as happy at home. I know the relatives would be happier splitting the cash not spent. Apparently it varies hugely by state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cremation_rate#United_States Cremation being most popular in Nevada is strange because they've got huge tracts of desert there to put people in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Apparently it varies hugely by state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cremation_rate#United_States Cremation being most popular in Nevada is strange because they've got huge tracts of desert there to put people in. Absolutely, look at the lowest acceptance states…the Bible Belt…it just ain’t right! Here’s the real pisser, they’ll agree to stir fry the deceased, but proceed to pack on a service, a remembrance, a video, a ceremony, a “nicer” coffin (that, incidentally, if you read the agreement, sometimes is rented for the ceremony and not toasted with ol’Joe), etc, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, TxRover said: Absolutely, look at the lowest acceptance states…the Bible Belt…it just ain’t right! Here’s the real pisser, they’ll agree to stir fry the deceased, but proceed to pack on a service, a remembrance, a video, a ceremony, a “nicer” coffin (that, incidentally, if you read the agreement, sometimes is rented for the ceremony and not toasted with ol’Joe), etc, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 57 minutes ago, oaksoft said: It doesn't need to be direct pressure. That industry has carefully built, over countless decades, an expectation of what is socially acceptable practice when someone dies and that includes a full funeral, sandwiches and tea, a "good quality" coffin, a hearse and a host of other things. There's a societal expectation now of what is acceptable and appropriate. It takes a huge amount for someone to say "straight to cremation" because people are conditioned to quite wrongly feel that this is uncaring. And so, people end up spending more than they need to for fear of being judged by others and also end up going through more stress than needed because more organisation means more opportunities for things to go wrong. On the worst day of your life, instead of thinking about the person you've lost you end up worrying about hearses turning up, caterers turning up, venues being opened up and not double-booked and a whole load of other nonsense. Absolutely, I agree. My point was that it's not a big business opportunity up there and isn't the same pressure. My dad's already said cheapest way and in the fire please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, ICTChris said: With hindsight "Biological Research" as opposed to "Medical Research" was a clue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Medical research, £200, ashes returned in 3 years, job done! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Might be wrong but I seem to remember cremations being considered a bit "unseemly" in the UK a few decades back as well. Society is painfully slow to move on things like social norms. Painfully slow is correct, the process started in the 19th century Apparently it didn't account for 50% of deaths in Scotland till 1977 , which was a decade later than the same landmark down south. It's still a bit peculiar in Northern Ireland Source: https://www.cremation.org.uk/progress-of-cremation-united-kingdom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Might be wrong but I seem to remember cremations being considered a bit "unseemly" in the UK a few decades back as well. Society is painfully slow to move on things like social norms. The cost of plots is a primary driver worldwide toward composting/natural/cremation solutions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 We need dakhmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 We laid my brother to rest yesterday. We got one of the last remaining plots at the cemetery. My preference is also to be buried, but then I'm pretty old school regarding things like that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said: We laid my brother to rest yesterday. We got one of the last remaining plots at the cemetery. My preference is also to be buried, but then I'm pretty old school regarding things like that. Wondering if the use of compactors will be required for those still wishing burial soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, TxRover said: Wondering if the use of compactors will be required for those still wishing burial soon. There's a guy that's been running some R&D for a while now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Apparently it didn't account for 50% of deaths in Scotland till 1977 Surely chucking someone into the incinerator would have a much higher death rate than that? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Carve me up for organs, burn what's left and throw it in the Clyde. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Carve me up for organs, burn what's left and throw it in the Clyde. Adding you to my Deadpool list for 2023. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Carve me up for organs, burn what's left and throw it in the Clyde. I read this in a Frank Reynolds "WHEN IM DEAD JUST THROW ME IN THE TRASH" voice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Carve me up for organs, burn what's left and throw it in the Clyde. This sounds like a frightened rabbit lyric tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, gannonball said: This sounds like a frightened rabbit lyric tbh. I'm sure many bands have songs about dying and organs, but only one band I'm aware of toured with them and have a song about being dead and in the Clyde: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Carve me up for organs, burn what's left and throw it in the Clyde. Will just confuse the police when they drag the river for dead prostitutes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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