Desp Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Celtic isn't the best place to develop for certain Scottish players, i.e the ones who were never good enough for them in the first place. Celtic have shown in recent times they will bring through and play Scottish talent in Tierney, McGregor, Christie, Forrest and Griffiths. Those guys are mainstays in the national team now. It won't be great seeing Turnbull in a Celtic shirt, but I do believe he's good enough to excel in that side and hopefully, in a couple of years, he moves on for a very sizeable fee and we get our 15%. But aye, let's get it announced so we can move on and get some signings in (hiya Gboly, hiya pal!) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I am gonna listen to Nigerian Hip Hop now. A 'Well top and a name like Zlatan?? This guy sounds awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: I am gonna listen to Nigerian Hip Hop now. A 'Well top and a name like Zlatan?? This guy sounds awesome. There he is... Edited June 22, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 There he is... That’s the Motherwell song sorted for next seasons A View From The Terrace outro. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) I see Tom English has been taking notes from this thread... Edited June 22, 2019 by capt_oats 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusTheBull Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, capt_oats said: I see Tom English has been taking notes from this thread... Has English finally cracked? He’s been heading that way for a while... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 He is a muppet of the highest order 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: I see Tom English has been taking notes from this thread... Maybe he'd been in a taxi on the way home from the pub.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 A couple of trialists going over to the training camp then? That's exciting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I see Tom English has been taking notes from this thread...[emoji23][emoji23] fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I see Tom English has been taking notes from this thread...We'll loan them Alan Campbell for £1.5 million. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Turnbull still not announced by Celtic....odd delay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I'm sure I read somewhere that he had to go to Manchester for a medical - no idea why... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Swello said: I'm sure I read somewhere that he had to go to Manchester for a medical - no idea why... Apparently it's an issue at Ross Hall. Burrows confirmed we've had a similar problem with a potential new player. Edited June 23, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I got over the Turnbull to Celtic move quickly after the bid was first accepted, which was more than a week ago. As a fan, I would have always preferred him to go south to avoid playing against us, but the cash Celtic were paying was a good bit of business for us. Good luck to the lad. He signed a new deal in January when he could have picked up a bigger signing on fee by signing a pre contract and moving for buttons. He signed that deal, with the agreement that if a good offer was made for him then we would accept it. £3m is a massive amount of money for us. The amount of people losing their shit over the move is cringeworthy. I’ve seen everything from wishing him a broken leg to not renewing season tickets as it’s Celtic he is going to. Maybe I just don’t take things so seriously these days! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qos1990 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Rumours were in for Liam brown, thoughts on him? I thought he’d have been about your first team, he seemed quite highly thought of 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mitch said: I got over the Turnbull to Celtic move quickly after the bid was first accepted, which was more than a week ago. As a fan, I would have always preferred him to go south to avoid playing against us, but the cash Celtic were paying was a good bit of business for us. Good luck to the lad. He signed a new deal in January when he could have picked up a bigger signing on fee by signing a pre contract and moving for buttons. He signed that deal, with the agreement that if a good offer was made for him then we would accept it. £3m is a massive amount of money for us. The amount of people losing their shit over the move is cringeworthy. I’ve seen everything from wishing him a broken leg to not renewing season tickets as it’s Celtic he is going to. Maybe I just do take things so seriously these days! 100%. I paid a visit to Steelmen for the first time in a long time yesterday and, while it's my own fault for looking in the first place, it absolutely melted my brain. I don't know if folk are just desperate to be raging about something or they're just wilfully stupid but the number of people who seem completely unable to read between the lines or see the bigger picture is mind-blowing. We're in a position where we've had our valuation matched and the player has done us a turn. We're receiving £3.25m for a single player transaction - our entire turnover in 2017 (a fairly average season) was £4.18m. My eyes are pretty much rolling out their sockets at the "we should have kept him for another season" takes. Turnbull had 2 choices: a train to Norwich or a taxi to Parkhead. Nice as it would have been to get another season out him there's no chance we were handing back that sort of money. The positive is that in clearing the loans owed it hopefully means we can continue to be 'robust' if teams are chapping our door making enquiries. In a general sense it's been an interesting experience and certainly instructive in terms of relative/perceived value; apparently there were 15 teams 'interested' to some degree but only 2 bit at our price. For me that supports Burrows' comment that the Celtic offer was the "optimum" we'd receive. If we'd underpriced him I'd have thought there would have been a bit more competition. 2 hours ago, qos1990 said: Rumours were in for Liam brown, thoughts on him? I thought he’d have been about your first team, he seemed quite highly thought of There are a few posts in this thread about Brown from ages ago when it was looking like he was going to Dunfermline. My bit on him below: On 22/05/2019 at 05:51, capt_oats said: There are a couple of posts about him a few pages back when the move was first rumoured. Robinson mentioned that we’d pulled a loan move for him back in January because we wanted to see if we could get him in the first team (but also suggested he had been carrying an injury). He’s not really been seen much since. Fwiw: Brown was a regular for our u20s/Reserves under Craigan. He stepped down around the end of December and Maurice Ross took his place. There seems to have been a change of approach at that level as a result. We signed him from Queen’s Park and had been playing first team games with them. He’s tidy on the ball, likes a tackle but is definitely at the stage where he needs regular first team football and he was unlikely to get in ahead of Allan Campbell (who we’ve offered a new deal to) and it seems Ross is looking to the age groups below to kick on now, he was talking up Dean Cornelius a lot in the recent MFC Podcast. There’s a lot to like about Brown. I’d hope he’d be able to do you guys a turn. Edited June 23, 2019 by capt_oats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 At the end of the day, money your club makes is one thing, but I always value what happens ON the park more than I value what happens in the boardroom and rivalry is something that happens in football and it's not pleasant seeing one of your best players move to one of your least favourite clubs. Now I know, Celtic aren't a 'rival' in terms of competing for trophies (although we did lose two cup finals to them a couple of seasons ago) or in terms of club size, but they are a club that alot of Motherwell fans quite rightly dislike. They are a thoroughly dislikeable bunch as a support and have a pious, sanctimonious, self righteous, hypocritical complex and at the same time 'play the tough guy' as we've seen on numerous occasions at Fir Park over the years, see Skippy Sunday and their destruction of the South Stand for a couple of examples. They are also extremely arrogant, as a club and support, and thanks to support in the media and in some cases, politics, have an air of 'we'll do what we like, cos we're Celtic' about them. And all that before you even go into their IRA songs, and chants mocking the death of one of our 1991 Cup winning team. Well I make no apology for not wishing any player well who leaves us to join that club and will take no enjoyment watching him score at Fir Park then seeing him and the rest of his team jumping around in front of the South Stand after they've beaten us at Fir Park. I don't begrudge him the move and I don't blame the in for accepting it, I just will not wish any player well who plays for Celtic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSmith Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, MJC said: At the end of the day, money your club makes is one thing, but I always value what happens ON the park more than I value what happens in the boardroom and rivalry is something that happens in football and it's not pleasant seeing one of your best players move to one of your least favourite clubs. Now I know, Celtic aren't a 'rival' in terms of competing for trophies (although we did lose two cup finals to them a couple of seasons ago) or in terms of club size, but they are a club that alot of Motherwell fans quite rightly dislike. They are a thoroughly dislikeable bunch as a support and have a pious, sanctimonious, self righteous, hypocritical complex and at the same time 'play the tough guy' as we've seen on numerous occasions at Fir Park over the years, see Skippy Sunday and their destruction of the South Stand for a couple of examples. They are also extremely arrogant, as a club and support, and thanks to support in the media and in some cases, politics, have an air of 'we'll do what we like, cos we're Celtic' about them. And all that before you even go into their IRA songs, and chants mocking the death of one of our 1991 Cup winning team. Well I make no apology for not wishing any player well who leaves us to join that club and will take no enjoyment watching him score at Fir Park then seeing him and the rest of his team jumping around in front of the South Stand after they've beaten us at Fir Park. I don't begrudge him the move and I don't blame the in for accepting it, I just will not wish any player well who plays for Celtic. You’ve literally said this like 4/5 times already in the past week. I think we’ve all got the messsage... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Dull post but with Turnbull's imminent departure here's a breakdown of the squads (FT/20s/18s) and contract expiries. Like most I think we're holding a spot for Gboly but even still despite all the talk having been about wingers and attackers we still look quite light in midfield. An injury to Campbell and Polworth and we're looking at Cornelius, Semple or McAlear for those spots. Going back to Robinson's comments before the Livi game you'd think there's still a question mark over Donnelly and almost certainly over Hartley, Johnson and Tanner. I'd be keen for Tait to get the captaincy and a new deal and probably give Campbell the vice captaincy if he wants. An extension for Charlie Taxi and either of Gillespie/Carson along with a few of the Young Team would be nice too if we can swing it. First team: GK: Gillespie / Carson / Ferguson DF: Tait / Grimshaw / Gallagher / Maguire / Dunne / Hartley / Carroll / Livingstone MF: Campbell / Sloth / Polworth / Donnelly FW: Long / Johnson / Hylton / Tanner = 19 Reserves/u18s: GK: Morrison / Hemfrey / Connolly DF: McDonald / Devine / Hussain / Brown / Williamson / Muir MF: Cornelius / McAlear / Semple / Kettings / Hale / Robertson FW: Scott / Starrs / Cook = 18 Contract expiry: 2019 Morrison Tanner 2020: Gillespie Carson Ferguson Tait Grimshaw Maguire Dunne Hartley Livingstone Donnelly Long Johnson Hemfrey Hussain Brown Cornelius McAlear Kettings Starrs 2021: Gallagher Carroll Campbell Sloth Polworth Hylton Semple 2022: Scott Edited June 23, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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