RostokMcSpoons Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neil86 said: the very same question was put to the Rotherham Manager the other day, apparently they don't leave anyone up at corners. His response was 'show me your ten favourite goals that have come from defending a corner' He also said the more players you have in the box, the more congested it is, and therefore harder for the opposition to score which is absolutely fair enough. Ok, so :adopts Manuel accent: "I know nothing" about football tactics, other than what seems blindingly obvious, but what seems to me to be blindingly obvious is that if you don't have someone left up at the halfway line, then when a defender blindly hoofs out of the penalty area then the only thing it's going to do is end up with at the oppositions' feet and they get to pump another ball into the box within a few seconds, when they're all still up there. And our player loitering at the half way line will encourage them to leave 1, possibly 2 extra players to cover him, which are players that aren't in our box as possible scorers. And there's that (admittedly small) chance of a lucky break-away goal, as listed above. So all-in-all, it seems a no-brainer to me. But perhaps I have no (football) brain. And maybe the stats all say otherwise. I won't argue if it's, y'know, science. Edited July 28, 2022 by RostokMcSpoons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I guess Alexander’s tactic for a lot of last season was let the opposition pump balls into our box and hope we could defend them, so him not leaving someone up isn’t that surprising. I’d always have at least one player up, maybe two. One of the peculiar things with defending corners I remember is us sending Scott McDonald back to defend and keeping 6’2” Lee Erwin up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Desp said: It was the final straw but they're possibly going to keep him on until Christmas? very good. No in terms of his man management and way he operates. Patience is now threadbare. When he goes will be purely down to performances on the pitch to reinforce the feeling he’s not the man to take the club forward in the way they want. Put it this way, we definitely won’t be sitting 4th in December this season. But what I’ve conveyed is in black and white. So we can review when he does go to see if what I’m conveying today is accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Kapowzer said: No in terms of his man management and way he operates. Patience is now threadbare. When he goes will be purely down to performances on the pitch to reinforce the feeling he’s not the man to take the club forward in the way they want. Put it this way, we definitely won’t be sitting 4th in December this season. But what I’ve conveyed is in black and white. So we can review when he does go to see if what I’m conveying today is accurate. You said GA falling out with the captain was the final straw. Based on my knowledge of the term 'final straw' that would mean it's the end, done, finito - the sacking is happening imminently, no? Him being punted in November after us being shite for four months does not make what you said today accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Desp said: You said GA falling out with the captain was the final straw. Based on my knowledge of the term 'final straw' that would mean it's the end, done, finito - the sacking is happening imminently, no? Him being punted in November after us being shite for four months does not make what you said today accurate. Fair enough. Don’t shoot the messenger because their use of language doesn’t rest easy with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cooper Stand Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Kapowzer said: I have it on good authority the longest he’ll be here is Xmas. Alienating the club captain was the final straw for decision makers. Aye very good, I have it on good authority that the team is in Sligo tonight, but I didn't make it up. Spill the beans on yir good authority or please stop posting made up rubbish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I don't want to concern anybody but Sligo have just signed a winger on loan from RB Leipzig? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: I don't want to concern anybody but Sligo have just signed a winger on loan from RB Leipzig? I doubt he'll be eligible to play tonight anyway? Regardless, I doubt RB Leipzig are sending many of their top talents to play in the League of Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: I don't want to concern anybody but Sligo have just signed a winger on loan from RB Leipzig? He won’t be playing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 They've signed him for the next round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one m in Motherwell Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Re. Alexander - regardless of how much patience the board have with him, a poor start to the season and further bad blood with the fanbase will pretty much make his position untenable. Whether this lasts up until November/December or earlier remains to be seen. However there doesn't seem to be any real point in sacking him now - there's barely enough time for any new manager to be brought in and/or any new signings made before the window shuts. It'll be a halfway house I think - Sept/Oct and he'll be away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, one m in Motherwell said: Re. Alexander - regardless of how much patience the board have with him, a poor start to the season and further bad blood with the fanbase will pretty much make his position untenable. Whether this lasts up until November/December or earlier remains to be seen. However there doesn't seem to be any real point in sacking him now - there's barely enough time for any new manager to be brought in and/or any new signings made before the window shuts. It'll be a halfway house I think - Sept/Oct and he'll be away. If we lose tonight I suspect the tissue paper thin patience the support has with him will be completely gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 The longest he'll be here is Christmas? I mean, as wild a take as this might be, what if we're...y'know...decent, between now and Christmas? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Don't shoot the messenger, mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Kapowzer said: But what I’ve conveyed is in black and white. There's a final straw in black and white from a good source that regardless of how well we're doing he'll be sacked before Christmas? Eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1979 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Kapowzer said: No in terms of his man management and way he operates. Patience is now threadbare. If that's true you have to wonder what kind of research the club did on the guy before hiring him, as it's been pretty clear since the outset how he goes about his business. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Am I right when I read that we’ve only scored over 2 goals in three games since Alexander arrived? Formartine, Queen of the South & St Mirren. I can see is scoring two tonight but if Sligo score, we could be in bother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Am I right when I read that we’ve only scored over 2 goals in three games since Alexander arrived? Formartine, Queen of the South & St Mirren. I can see is scoring two tonight but if Sligo score, we could be in bother. We beat Killie Livi 3-1 in the Covid season iirc Edited July 28, 2022 by YassinMoutaouakil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, RostokMcSpoons said: So all-in-all, it seems a no-brainer to me. But perhaps I have no (football) brain. And maybe the stats all say otherwise. I won't argue if it's, y'know, science. I agree completely in terms of feeling but GA was very certain when asked the stats say otherwise. The principles of how you defend certain things are now established by analysts watching thousands upon thousands of examples and the feeling of you and I in the stand is worth even less than it used to be. Way before stats got mega trendy for the general public, I remember a manager on sky sports being asked why he didn't have man on the post at corners. His reply was basically 'you always remember the odd goal you concede or save that way but never notice how many times the extra guy guarding the front of the six yard box clears it - trust me it's worth it'. And fair enough, this is no longer a subjective matter - if someone in the game says this I now tend to just believe them. When GA was making his defence at the the AGM he said we'd conceded three goals from the last 170 odd corners - since then we've only lost one more and that was when Kelly dropped it v St Mirren. One guess how the goal which knocks us out tonight will be scored... Edited July 28, 2022 by Handsome_Devil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Cooper Stand said: Aye very good, I have it on good authority that the team is in Sligo tonight, but I didn't make it up. Spill the beans on yir good authority or please stop posting made up rubbish. I didn’t make up up what I conveyed. By identifying where I heard it will compromise the individual who shared it. I also don’t have to qualify to you as if it’s deserved after your shitey posts last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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