Al B Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, capt_oats said: The gist, as far as I can tell, is that Carson invited his family over for their post-split game against the **** only for Robinson to drop him for the game. Carson kicked off about it which Robinson didn't take well. Having a quick look at Transfermarkt it was the only league game he didn't start last season. There seems to have been a suggestion that one of Carson's family (brother?) had a go at Robinson during their end of season POTY anaw. I mean, Robinson's famously laid back so I can't imagine how this became an issue tbh. 8 minutes ago, Swello said: The chat was - and this is funny - Trevor's staunch Da and assorted family were coming over to watch him play against their beloved Rangers and Robbo dropped him as it was a dead end of season game and he wanted to try the other keeper out. Trev (and his Da you'd imagine) was raging and that seems to have led to an irredeemable breakdown. beaten to it by @capt_oats I mean, that's hardly up there with dropping your keeper on the same day you announce his record of consecutive games! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'WellDel Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) I've seen parents and relatives embarrassing themselves when their wee superstars, in their opinion, weren't getting a game at about u10's level. A professional adult ultimately moving clubs over it (with added value for the fact it was really the opposition they were there to see) is fucking tremendously Cinch though !!! Edited August 2, 2023 by 'WellDel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Al B said: I mean, that's hardly up there with dropping your keeper on the same day you announce his record of consecutive games! To be fair it got announced because that was the end of his run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I don't sympathise with the rabid staunchness but on the face of it, I can understand Carson. Given Robinson must have known him for over a decades, has worked with him at different clubs, and apparently is close enough to have let him stay in England with his families for half the week, it seems a bit odd that drop him without prior warning for a game like that or refuse to budge once Carson complained. In summary, I hate to say it- but Robinson has lost the plot and all signs right now point to St Mirren being relegated with a record low points tally this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 When it was going on - I wondered if a money saving thing for us would have been to sell Kelly, get Trev back (with a promise of up to 4 complimentary tickets in the South Stand for every Rangers game) and that way, our wage bill would be lower, we'd be no worse off from a playing point of view and our level of squad staunchness would remain essentially unchanged. Too late now though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Swello said: When it was going on - I wondered if a money saving thing for us would have been to sell Kelly, get Trev back (with a promise of up to 4 complimentary tickets in the South Stand for every Rangers game) and that way, our wage bill would be lower, we'd be no worse off from a playing point of view and our level of squad staunchness would remain essentially unchanged. Too late now though. On a vaguely related point, I noticed this yesterday before everyone got caught up in the excitement of Thelonius Day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Swello said: When it was going on - I wondered if a money saving thing for us would have been to sell Kelly, get Trev back (with a promise of up to 4 complimentary tickets in the South Stand for every Rangers game) and that way, our wage bill would be lower, we'd be no worse off from a playing point of view and our level of squad staunchness would remain essentially unchanged. Too late now though. Dundee paid a 6 figure fee for Carson. There was no way we were going to pay a fee for any player this summer, especially not a 35 year old with no resale value 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 He never kicked off at Robinson when he was denied a move to Celtic which would have set him up for life, but he kicked off when his family's day out at Ibrox was compromised. That's some proper staunchness from Trev. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, camer0n_mcd said: Dundee paid a 6 figure fee for Carson. There was no way we were going to pay a fee for any player this summer, especially not a 35 year old with no resale value Las would have given Trev to us for free as he loves the 'Well and wants a promotion to our CEO role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu92 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 So have we signed Mika yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I'm not really sure how I feel about Kelly. He's presumably our highest earner right now and isn't really justifying it, but it'd be bold to let him leave next summer and take our chances on Oxborough/ the market. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Totally obsessed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: He's presumably our highest earner right now and isn't really justifying it, He apparently is (by some distance) and there have been periods he was downright utter shite. He's a decent keeper at our level but Last season I can bet you a goalie an average wage would have been binned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-raising Lazarus Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, FTOF said: Totally obsessed. You're essentially our colt team at this point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 The lack of Mika has left me completely Biereth. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Self-raising Lazarus said: You're essentially our colt team at this point Doesn't really make much sense given your inferior league position last season. However obsession does tend to cloud the mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, FTOF said: Doesn't really make much sense given your inferior league position last season. However obsession does tend to cloud the mind. Genuine question, do you not find it a notable scenario? Further genuine question, if St Johnstone had signed that many of your ex staff members and players in the last 2 seasons, are you saying that St Mirren fans wouldn't be mentioning it and having a wee laugh about it? Final genuine question, if St Mirren fans did mention it and have a wee laugh about it, would it be because you were obsessed with St Johnstone? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Al B said: Genuine question, do you not find it a notable scenario? Further genuine question, if St Johnstone had signed that many of your ex staff members and players in the last 2 seasons, are you saying that St Mirren fans wouldn't be mentioning it and having a wee laugh about it? Final genuine question, if St Mirren fans did mention it and have a wee laugh about it, would it be because you were obsessed with St Johnstone? We don't even need to sign their players for them to be obsessed over us. The mere fact we accomplished more in 1 season than they've managed in about 4 decades blew their collective minds I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 For me, Kelly is a good Motherwell level goalie and is probably as good a 'keeper as we can realistically ever expect. However, if figures I've heard quoted are true, he earns around double what I'd expect a good Motherwell level 'keeper to. It did seem a good idea at the time, given how good Kelly was on loan, his age and how injury prone Carson had been for a few years. Add in the potential of selling Kelly. However, in reality we've probably got a similar level goalie on double the money who will likely leave for free in the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Presumably extending Kelly’s contract allows us to cash in if he ever catches the eye of someone else? Maybe Dundee in two years time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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