camer0n_mcd Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Perth Glory announce that John Koutroumbis is leaving to 'pursue opportunities overseas'. Potentially to look out for considering our previous links to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 5 hours ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: Past data on promoting second-choice goalkeepers to number one isn't particularly favourable... Stevie Woods (several times), Dubourdeau, Lee Hollis, Craig Samson... Mark Gillespie, however, is the exception. Definitely an accurate take. Ox played a couple of league cup games from memory so I went back to see if anyone had passed comment at the time. @Archie McSquackle - "Oxborough is a lot bigger but didn't come for corners in the East Fife game which Kelly would have easily" So let's not hold out hope he's our number 1 and if he is everyone better relax into a season of similar outcomes to this.... Does beg the question - have we had two goalies who naturally just don't come for corners and crosses? Or, has it been coached into them for whatever reason not to do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 There's definitely a strong Motherwell Da' aspect to expectations around goalkeeping - those brought up watching Sieb Dykstra have got a badly skewed view of what keepers actually do. Even back then, a keeper regularly coming to take crosses at the penalty spot (and 18 yard line) was out of the ordinary/weird and I'm really not sure that it is a big part of goalkeeping in modern fitba. We didn't lose a goal from a corner under GA - and that didn't happen because Kelly was coming for everything. I don't think there is a clear, easy to see reason for us losing so many soft goals from corners/long throws/crosses but it's not because Kelly wasn't doing this: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, eliphas said: Definitely an accurate take. Ox played a couple of league cup games from memory so I went back to see if anyone had passed comment at the time. @Archie McSquackle - "Oxborough is a lot bigger but didn't come for corners in the East Fife game which Kelly would have easily" So let's not hold out hope he's our number 1 and if he is everyone better relax into a season of similar outcomes to this.... Does beg the question - have we had two goalies who naturally just don't come for corners and crosses? Or, has it been coached into them for whatever reason not to do that? He lost 3 goals to QotS but he saved the penalty which got us the 2 points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 hours ago, camer0n_mcd said: Perth Glory announce that John Koutroumbis is leaving to 'pursue opportunities overseas'. Potentially to look out for considering our previous links to him. He’ll have his St Mirren scarf above his head in no time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, eliphas said: Definitely an accurate take. Ox played a couple of league cup games from memory so I went back to see if anyone had passed comment at the time. @Archie McSquackle - "Oxborough is a lot bigger but didn't come for corners in the East Fife game which Kelly would have easily" So let's not hold out hope he's our number 1 and if he is everyone better relax into a season of similar outcomes to this.... Does beg the question - have we had two goalies who naturally just don't come for corners and crosses? Or, has it been coached into them for whatever reason not to do that? It's a small sample size admittedly (one game ) but I was struck by how much he stayed on his line when it looked as though the ball was there to be taken. He may well have been nervous on a rare appearance. 2 hours ago, Swello said: There's definitely a strong Motherwell Da' aspect to expectations around goalkeeping - those brought up watching Sieb Dykstra have got a badly skewed view of what keepers actually do. Even back then, a keeper regularly coming to take crosses at the penalty spot (and 18 yard line) was out of the ordinary/weird and I'm really not sure that it is a big part of goalkeeping in modern fitba. We didn't lose a goal from a corner under GA - and that didn't happen because Kelly was coming for everything. I don't think there is a clear, easy to see reason for us losing so many soft goals from corners/long throws/crosses but it's not because Kelly wasn't doing this: What a day that was. Celtic parade Fergus McCann before the game and then launch ball after ball to big Sieb who was absolutely loving it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 We're playing Livi at Fir Park on the 6th of July in a pre-season friendly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, eliphas said: Definitely an accurate take. Ox played a couple of league cup games from memory so I went back to see if anyone had passed comment at the time. @Archie McSquackle - "Oxborough is a lot bigger but didn't come for corners in the East Fife game which Kelly would have easily" So let's not hold out hope he's our number 1 and if he is everyone better relax into a season of similar outcomes to this.... Does beg the question - have we had two goalies who naturally just don't come for corners and crosses? Or, has it been coached into them for whatever reason not to do that? I mean, here's footage of big Aston before he signed for us so the fact he's seems happy to be coming and claiming crosses cleanly enough suggests that it's a coaching thing. I'm not exactly sold on the idea of him being our #1 but I can see that there might be more of a route for him to get games now that Kelly is away along with all the awkwardness that a goalkeeper being captain brings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 16 minutes ago, camer0n_mcd said: We're playing Livi at Fir Park on the 6th of July in a pre-season friendly. I hope our pitch renovation will be completed by then. Still not lifted when I walked past the other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 13 minutes ago, Well Well said: I hope our pitch renovation will be completed by then. Still not lifted when I walked past the other day. Could be played behind closed doors at Dalziel to be fair. I just assumed it would be at FP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 58 minutes ago, capt_oats said: I mean, here's footage of big Aston before he signed for us so the fact he's seems happy to be coming and claiming crosses cleanly enough suggests that it's a coaching thing. I'm not exactly sold on the idea of him being our #1 but I can see that there might be more of a route for him to get games now that Kelly is away along with all the awkwardness that a goalkeeper being captain brings. There was also the consecutive league minutes record that the club was pushing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Well Well said: I hope our pitch renovation will be completed by then. Still not lifted when I walked past the other day. It looked fantastic from the small sample I got from over Caldwell's shoulder in that video. I've not seen it anywhere that we're doing significant renovations this summer, or did I miss it? Edited May 28 by StAndrew7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Aye, I thought the idea was it was a hybrid now so we didn't need a full scale renovation every year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I forgot we needed a new captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, eliphas said: Aye, I thought the idea was it was a hybrid now so we didn't need a full scale renovation every year Yeah you can't take an inch off, dress and reseed when you have plastic knitted into it. Main issue was algae and fungus but deep sub base and drainage and removing the pitch that left to fester underneath our old one should have resolved a fair bit of that problem Flow said before he left they envisaged the annual bill would be down from £110k to £30k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 10 minutes ago, Vietnam91 said: Yeah you can't take an inch off, dress and reseed when you have plastic knitted into it. Main issue was algae and fungus but deep sub base and drainage and removing the pitch that left to fester underneath our old one should have resolved a fair bit of that problem Flow said before he left they envisaged the annual bill would be down from £110k to £30k. Why didn't we use this in January to cover KVV's wages? * *Not being entirely serious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Screw that, that's three Theo Bairs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 16 minutes ago, rowsdower said: Screw that, that's three Theo Bairs! With enough left over for a shitload of porridge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 7 hours ago, Ron Aldo said: Why didn't we use this in January to cover KVV's wages? * *Not being entirely serious. Spent it on all the lovely concrete and railings to keep the east stand standing and then some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosser1886 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 21 hours ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: Past data on promoting second-choice goalkeepers to number one isn't particularly favourable... Stevie Woods (several times), Dubourdeau, Lee Hollis, Craig Samson... Mark Gillespie, however, is the exception. Maybe, but not really any point in him being here if he isn't half decent or get any game time to show how good/bad/indifferent he is. There for emergencies I know but if Kelly's performances this season didn't warrant a bit emergency replacement goal keeper time I don't know what will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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