The Real Saints Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I saw Adam Webb walking near London Bridge yesterday and was too scared to talk to him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidReid01 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Sounds like May to Livingston is likely. Hopefully means we can use some of his wages asap to get a centre mid in. Still feel we’re short of a winger as well but expect that’ll be a loan signing from England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 19 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: Any signs of works starting at the stadium, re car park, lifts etc? Sure there was talk that a new scoreboard might be in place before 2nd league home game, which would be a week on Saturday. Surely no chance the touch the car park until the season is over? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 ^^^ I imagine RandomG is correct? Not that I know anything about road maintenance Admittedly not bothered about the screen either. Would be nice but I imagine the cost is going to be well above 100k? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Admittedly not bothered about the screen either. Would be nice but I imagine the cost is going to be well above 100k? Well worth it if it has the "GOAL!" animation again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Surely no chance the touch the car park until the season is over? Don't see why not. Resurfacing it in a couple of weeks should be easily doable tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 21 minutes ago, The Marly said: Don't see why not. Resurfacing it in a couple of weeks should be easily doable tbh. Assumed this too. You can do it in phases too. I flagged it as he said that was the first thing he'd be doing. On the scoreboard, I doubt it would be as much as £100k, but you'd be able to have additional advertising in it etc, so starts to pay itself back a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I’m sure he said at the forum it’s areas of improvement identified and we’re collecting costs. Scoreboard is a priority for them, I think they wanted it in for next weeks match. However if unhappy with costs they wanted a second opinion on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Moving to Preston was one of the worst decisions Ali McCann made, from a footballing perspective. Extending his contract there until 2027 earlier this year was the worst. A total waste of a career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Moving to Preston was one of the worst decisions Ali McCann made, from a footballing perspective. Extending his contract there until 2027 earlier this year was the worst. A total waste of a career. Couldn't give a flying f**k, he forced the move through if you believe Clum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 49 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Moving to Preston was one of the worst decisions Ali McCann made, from a footballing perspective. Extending his contract there until 2027 earlier this year was the worst. A total waste of a career. Would be a laugh to go back on this forum and see the opinions of McCann, Ferguson and Campbell a few years ago. There was a lot of tribalism at play, but I didn't see Ferguson as the only one who would really kick on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 11 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: Would be a laugh to go back on this forum and see the opinions of McCann, Ferguson and Campbell a few years ago. There was a lot of tribalism at play, but I didn't see Ferguson as the only one who would really kick on. I think this is it, they were all very good young players in Scotland at about the same time, all of whom were slightly different in their own way. It just goes to highlight how important the next move on your career is, 2 have gone down south and been swallowed up in the rigmarole that is the Championship and have never been allowed to develop. The other has gone abroad and flourished with the right coaching and experience and all credit to him for that. It’s what makes the like of Lennon Millar and David Watson think very, very carefully when they inevitably get offers, as the wrong path and team and you’re career will stagnate. Not that the guys will be doing badly for themselves admittedly, but could be so much more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 20 minutes ago, Widge said: I think this is it, they were all very good young players in Scotland at about the same time, all of whom were slightly different in their own way. It just goes to highlight how important the next move on your career is, 2 have gone down south and been swallowed up in the rigmarole that is the Championship and have never been allowed to develop. The other has gone abroad and flourished with the right coaching and experience and all credit to him for that. It’s what makes the like of Lennon Millar and David Watson think very, very carefully when they inevitably get offers, as the wrong path and team and you’re career will stagnate. Not that the guys will be doing badly for themselves admittedly, but could be so much more. Campbell just maybe hit his level but I don't doubt that McCann would have thrived abroad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, DukDukGoose said: Campbell just maybe hit his level but I don't doubt that McCann would have thrived abroad. I think Campbell can probably feel pretty sour by what's happened to him at Luton. He was Players POTY in their 21/22 season and was a regular in their promotion team under Nathan Jones but Rob Edwards (who seems an arsehole tbqh) started to freeze him out and essentially cut him during the close season because he was signing Ross Barkley and the like. The Millwall loan didn't work for whatever reason but from the look of things Edwards/Luton chose to do f**k all about it. Rather than recall him or find him an alternative loan they seemed just leave him to rot. It's one of those where you can see how stuff that's entirely out of your control or one bad move can see a career stall/go sideways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 18 minutes ago, capt_oats said: I think Campbell can probably feel pretty sour by what's happened to him at Luton. He was Players POTY in their 21/22 season and was a regular in their promotion team under Nathan Jones but Rob Edwards (who seems an arsehole tbqh) started to freeze him out and essentially cut him during the close season because he was signing Ross Barkley and the like. The Millwall loan didn't work for whatever reason but from the look of things Edwards/Luton chose to do f**k all about it. Rather than recall him or find him an alternative loan they seemed just leave him to rot. It's one of those where you can see how stuff that's entirely out of your control or one bad move can see a career stall/go sideways. Aesthetics plays a part in what happened to Campbell at Luton, IMO. A wee baldy Scot who loves a tackle isn't what "philosophy" managers want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, Widge said: I think this is it, they were all very good young players in Scotland at about the same time, all of whom were slightly different in their own way. It just goes to highlight how important the next move on your career is, 2 have gone down south and been swallowed up in the rigmarole that is the Championship and have never been allowed to develop. The other has gone abroad and flourished with the right coaching and experience and all credit to him for that. It’s what makes the like of Lennon Millar and David Watson think very, very carefully when they inevitably get offers, as the wrong path and team and you’re career will stagnate. Not that the guys will be doing badly for themselves admittedly, but could be so much more. Always find it strange that a young player (given the options) would choose Preston or Stoke etc over trying Italy or Spain etc. The recent trend of young Scottish players to Italy can only be a good thing and I don't think there is a failure amongst them tbh. Compare that to guys like Nesbit, Campbell, McCann etc who went down to meh sides in England and have gotten lost. I suppose maybe they looked at Ryan Gauld as the example of a player thriving abroad but unrecognised domestically re Scotland national team. Next saints young player who moves upward from us, I'd love it if they went abroad someplace and we can all buy in more into their journey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 15 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: Always find it strange that a young player (given the options) would choose Preston or Stoke etc over trying Italy or Spain etc. The recent trend of young Scottish players to Italy can only be a good thing and I don't think there is a failure amongst them tbh. Compare that to guys like Nesbit, Campbell, McCann etc who went down to meh sides in England and have gotten lost. I suppose maybe they looked at Ryan Gauld as the example of a player thriving abroad but unrecognised domestically re Scotland national team. Next saints young player who moves upward from us, I'd love it if they went abroad someplace and we can all buy in more into their journey. Moving abroad at 21 is likely harder than it sounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Moving abroad at 21 is likely harder than it sounds. Yip, but hundreds move to the UK to play every year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 36 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Aesthetics plays a part in what happened to Campbell at Luton, IMO. A wee baldy Scot who loves a tackle isn't what "philosophy" managers want. Strong agree. The fact that Edwards doesn't even seem open to giving him a shot now that they're back in the Championship (a level he was a stand out for Luton previously) suggests it's more a case of him just not liking his face more than anything else. You've mentioned McCann joining the wrong club, I think the irony with Campbell is that he actually joined the ideal club with the right manager for his skillset. It's actually been the level of success they had that has f**ked things for him a bit. 9 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Moving abroad at 21 is likely harder than it sounds. Also agree. I've always kind of taken exception to the suggestion(s) that always follow Turnbull that he he should have moved abroad rather than join Celtic. Not least because it assumes that these teams were actually interested in signing him in the first place but also the idea that just f**king off abroad in the middle of a pandemic would have been straightforward for him. Edited August 20 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Moving abroad at 21 is likely harder than it sounds. To quote Ian Rush "it's like living in a foreign country'... Probably harder in the past, but with modern technology etc, shouldn't be that hard tbh. Being in Bologna for example is clearly different from being in Preston, but you won't find many young players that regret it. I know McCann probably didn't have the options, but players like him and Ferguson have a style that is well suited to certain leagues. Going back a bit, but guys like Barry Ferguson, Paul McStay etc were almost built for Italian football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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