Suspect Device Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 The talk of financial fair play rules by the SPFL seem to have died a death. Which is what I was hoping Newgers would have done. No such luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, bob_mcshug said: Rangers and Celtic already have resources that dwarf all other clubs in the country. I find it utterly bizarre that even that starting advantage is not enough that they (well, potentially just rangers at the minute) would rack up such an overspend. Mental stuff. As aside, I'd like to think that even Falkirk could nab 1 league title over 9 years while racking up £100m debt. Hardly much to brag about. Makes the 14 million loss Sevco had to win League 2 quite good value now tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: Would the second option not impigne on the first? Potentially, yes. If you don't qualify for the CL Groups, you sell a player to cover the loss which potentially makes you weaker, but it's the model Celtic have been successfully adopting for some time now and we need to do the same. Granted, they were able to operate this model successfully over a period where they have rarely had any challenge domestically, but it's not really feasible to continue this way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 It matters not a jot if Rangers win the league, as that guarantees them the CL money. I imagine Rangers fans are quite relaxed about that tbh, we all know Rangers and Gerrard can cope with a seasons worth of pressure to win the league now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Merkland Red said: Why should 10 in a row dwarf anything? Surely having a club to support instead of starting another is more important? That's my point. They were hell bent on stopping 10 in a row to the likely detriment of the future. Rangers missed a massive trick when they started again. They could have done it more sustainably and built the fabric of the club and its structure up while still getting massive crowds and would still have made it to the top flight in the same time, but would be set up much better than they are. How long can they rely on soft loans, share issues and the maybe of CL money. A proper Rangers fan would be asking some serious questions about the running of the club. On field much is clicking, but off field something is fundamentally wrong. I would wage that if pretty much any other club in scottish football could/would throw £100m at it they'd make it into the top two. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: That's my point. They were hell bent on stopping 10 in a row to the likely detriment of the future. Rangers missed a massive trick when they started again. They could have done it more sustainably and built the fabric of the club and its structure up while still getting massive crowds and would still have made it to the top flight in the same time, but would be set up much better than they are. How long can they rely on soft loans, share issues and the maybe of CL money. A proper Rangers fan would be asking some serious questions about the running of the club. On field much is clicking, but off field something is fundamentally wrong. I would wage that if pretty much any other club in scottish football could/would throw £100m at it they'd make it into the top two. I don't think that uncle Charlie was too fussed about sustainability and fabric building tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudge1903 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Neither were/are the fans interested in building anything sustainable. Only interest ever has been to feed your ego and superiority complex and compete with Celtic. Sport doesn't come into it in the slightest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, bennett said: I don't think that uncle Charlie was too fussed about sustainability and fabric building tbf. Neither were the fans, as far as I could see. There was plenty reports of Charlie being a con man when he was at Sheffield United which was widely ignored. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, AJF said: Potentially, yes. If you don't qualify for the CL Groups, you sell a player to cover the loss which potentially makes you weaker, but it's the model Celtic have been successfully adopting for some time now and we need to do the same. Granted, they were able to operate this model successfully over a period where they have rarely had any challenge domestically, but it's not really feasible to continue this way. Growth of revenue streams outside of ticket sales also needed (and started) to offset the lack of TV money. Already linked with Disney/Star through the Indian rights package, potentially an avenue for other markets now. COVID blowing a hole in the ratios of first team wages to revenue aside, they’re not brilliant but they’re not awful either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Lucky they have that Tomket Tyres deal to fall back on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ric said: Lucky they have that Tomket Tyres deal to fall back on. In fairness, our sponsorship and advertising income grew by over £1.5m from the previous year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AJF said: In fairness, our sponsorship and advertising income grew by over £1.5m from the previous year Commercial revenue is up 1000% from 5 years ago Edited November 5, 2021 by Orbix 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Why should 10 in a row dwarf anything? Surely having a club to support instead of starting another is more important? Have you just moved to Scotland? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: Have you just moved to Scotland? Misunderstood the original post. I thought he was making the same claim. As a fellow diddy I wanted to see why he thought it was important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Neither were the fans, as far as I could see. There was plenty reports of Charlie being a con man when he was at Sheffield United which was widely ignored. Should've gone to... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Oor old pals are back in the news, God help Derby if they get their snouts in.. Scottish businessmen James and Sandy Easdale are in advanced talks to buy Derby, the PA news agency understands. It is understood the brothers, who have previously invested in Scottish champions Rangers, have teamed up with a Malaysian fund to attempt to push through a takeover at Pride Park. The Rams are in administration and were deducted 12 points by the EFL as a result. They called in the administrators in September as owner Mel Morris revealed the coronavirus pandemic had cost them £20million. The Easdale brothers, who grew up in Greenock, have amassed an estimated £750million fortune based on property and transport and bought a shareholding at Ibrox in 2013, but were ousted from the board during Dave King’s takeover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, bennett said: Oor old pals are back in the news, God help Derby if they get their snouts in.. Scottish businessmen James and Sandy Easdale are in advanced talks to buy Derby, the PA news agency understands. It is understood the brothers, who have previously invested in Scottish champions Rangers, have teamed up with a Malaysian fund to attempt to push through a takeover at Pride Park. The Rams are in administration and were deducted 12 points by the EFL as a result. They called in the administrators in September as owner Mel Morris revealed the coronavirus pandemic had cost them £20million. The Easdale brothers, who grew up in Greenock, have amassed an estimated £750million fortune based on property and transport and bought a shareholding at Ibrox in 2013, but were ousted from the board during Dave King’s takeover. I wouldn't wish the Easdales on anyone. Well, maybe Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 23m loss...why ? What has required spending on that level in a league of 2 ? Its absolute fucking lunacy and a total failure as a business model. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squonk Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Not sure why everyone is getting so aeriated about the set of accounts of a meaningless and expendable operating company. If said operating company goes tits up, our forward-thinking football administrators will simply license another off-the-shelf debt-free newco(mpany) to operate the same club with a derisory and utterly meaningless points deduction as the only sanction. Those football administrators will also argue that (Third) Rangers should ply its trade in the top division for the good of Scottish football. What's not to like? I believe it was Jorg Albertz Einstein who defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome, but clearly those who 'wrestled back control of the club' wurnae listening. Meanwhile, the SFA turns a deaf eye and a blind ear to the same old. The people should be indebted for their saviours' indebtedness. It can't be easy to win a solitary top league title in eight and a half years of existence with cumulative debts of just a hundred and six million quid. Edited November 5, 2021 by Squonk Too truthful 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 The cheating clowns are going to be run by administrators soon enough with players taking massive cuts across the board or being released. This will happen if Celtic start accelerating past them in 22 but definitely in 23. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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