Jacksgranda Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, kingjoey said: That wouldn’t include Celtic, Shirley. No, they would have their Homecoming co-efficient. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) I love watching Celtic in europe but as for the actual euro competitions now. I lost all interest in them, I dont watch them anymore if Celtic arent in them apart from the odd time a particular team seems to be doing something different from the norm. I used to love watching the old uefa, Cup Winners , European Cup but the lack of competition, same old teams etc. I know the first thought in many posters minds is thats a bit rich being a Celtic fan in a domestic league either Celtic or rangers win but I also dont really like the fact its always same winners in spfl. I think a new european competition should be started by all the european countries outside the big 5 or 6 who dominate the current uefa setup. It should be a fair competition not under Uefa. It probably should be 2 competitions. The money a club gets for qualifying and from the european competition should be slpit 50/50 with the club and the league its from. For example if Celtic were to get 40 million they keep 20 and the league clubs split the other 20. That way the money gets spread out and competition domestically should get better. All the leagues should align as much as possible how they distribute their money domestically/internally, maybe an idea is even selling the doemstic TV rights of all these european countries as one and sharing the money between the leagues on some sort of viewing figures level or even just equally. Some way that would share even the domestic money more fairly and in some aligned european way. Im sure theres loads holes in this idea but some way to make a competitive not just european but domestic leagues again in europe is possible in my opinion, might not be the above but someone somewhere has the way. Accepting the ideas/scraps from uefa is just shite really. We should just do it ourselves Edited April 6, 2022 by BigDoddyKane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Fair point. As a Celtic fan do you see the Champs League as purely an opportunity to boost your accounts and to get the rare opportunity to see some top teams at Celtic Park or do you think you can go for in the competition? I think it’s a stretch to suggest we can go far in the competition we would need a very fortunate draw for that to happen and a very good transfer window. I would however like to see us do better than previous attempts and avoid 7-0 7-1 drubbings and at least be more competitive. But let’s not pretend the money isn’t the big thing here obviously it is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, Jinky67 said: I think it’s a stretch to suggest we can go far in the competition we would need a very fortunate draw for that to happen and a very good transfer window. I would however like to see us do better than previous attempts and avoid 7-0 7-1 drubbings and at least be more competitive. But let’s not pretend the money isn’t the big thing here obviously it is No drubbings, a few results and drop down Into the Europa is the old Firm's (sorry celtic) best bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Jinky67 said: I’ll remember that while the Champions League theme blasts You might get the disco lights going at last. £2 million well spent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, AB1872 said: You might get the disco lights going at last. £2 million well spent They were going when we destroyed you at Celtic Park mate. Set the mood nicely 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, AB1872 said: You might get the disco lights going at last. £2 million well spent Mental that the next two million your club earns will only be 2/3 of the way to plugging the gap your wee sensitive "fans" made when their dummies went hypersonic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Jinky67 said: I think it’s a stretch to suggest we can go far in the competition we would need a very fortunate draw for that to happen and a very good transfer window. I would however like to see us do better than previous attempts and avoid 7-0 7-1 drubbings and at least be more competitive. But let’s not pretend the money isn’t the big thing here obviously it is Real drubbings are not that common in the group stages as the real powerhouses tend to do enough against the ‘diddy’ clubs to get through. As Bennet says above. Try and finish 3rd and drop into Europa League is the best bet for either Old Firm club. That way guarantees the money and gives us a sporting chance against similar size clubs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Mental that the next two million your club earns will only be 2/3 of the way to plugging the gap your wee sensitive "fans" made when their dummies went hypersonic. We ll earn more than that next Thursday -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Jinky67 said: I think it’s a stretch to suggest we can go far in the competition we would need a very fortunate draw for that to happen and a very good transfer window. I would however like to see us do better than previous attempts and avoid 7-0 7-1 drubbings and at least be more competitive. But let’s not pretend the money isn’t the big thing here obviously it is Aye, none of us like football being more about money than winning but you are spot on. The reality is that of the 79 teams that enter the competition only really 4 or 5 teams (and am being kind to Man City in saying 4) are entering with a realistic chance of winning it which means around 75 teams or 95% of the teams are there for the money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: They should call it The Old Firm co-efficient, imho It's helping third place/Hibernian when we win the cup go right into the Conf' league next season at worst so them doing well is overall better for our better clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, AB1872 said: We ll earn more than that next Thursday And UEFA will probably fine you 2/3rds of that for your songbook or your bottle-throwers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, AB1872 said: We ll earn more than that next Thursday You do know it’s not one or the other? You could’ve had both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB1872 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: You do know it’s not one or the other? You could’ve had both. I thought this had been explained. Rangers will be arranging alternatives to the Oz fiasco. I’m sure we ll earn from that. The board , eventually, listened to the support and the support will now , hopefully, back whatever alternative is put forward which is another gain financially. Now there will be no fan boycott of RTV, Merchandise and MyGers Rangers will be losing very little, if anything, from not playing in Anges homecoming 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, AB1872 said: I thought this had been explained. Rangers will be arranging alternatives to the Oz fiasco. I’m sure we ll earn from that. The board , eventually, listened to the support and the support will now , hopefully, back whatever alternative is put forward which is another gain financially. Now there will be no fan boycott of RTV, Merchandise and MyGers Rangers will be losing very little, if anything, from not playing in Anges homecoming You still can’t compare it to Thursday game though, Oz only becomes irrelevant once you’ve arranged something else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, AB1872 said: I thought this had been explained. Rangers will be arranging alternatives to the Oz fiasco. I’m sure we ll earn from that. The board , eventually, listened to the support and the support will now , hopefully, back whatever alternative is put forward which is another gain financially. Now there will be no fan boycott of RTV, Merchandise and MyGers Rangers will be losing very little, if anything, from not playing in Anges homecoming I’d imagine Rangers will now earn less from anything they do arrange than they normally would. If you were in the market for a club to take part in some friendly tournament or other, you’d see how they f*cked about the organisers of that one and steer clear unless they dropped their asking price a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said: I love watching Celtic in europe but as for the actual euro competitions now. I lost all interest in them, I dont watch them anymore if Celtic arent in them apart from the odd time a particular team seems to be doing something different from the norm. I used to love watching the old uefa, Cup Winners , European Cup but the lack of competition, same old teams etc. I know the first thought in many posters minds is thats a bit rich being a Celtic fan in a domestic league either Celtic or rangers win but I also dont really like the fact its always same winners in spfl. I think a new european competition should be started by all the european countries outside the big 5 or 6 who dominate the current uefa setup. It should be a fair competition not under Uefa. It probably should be 2 competitions. The money a club gets for qualifying and from the european competition should be slpit 50/50 with the club and the league its from. For example if Celtic were to get 40 million they keep 20 and the league clubs split the other 20. That way the money gets spread out and competition domestically should get better. All the leagues should align as much as possible how they distribute their money domestically/internally, maybe an idea is even selling the doemstic TV rights of all these european countries as one and sharing the money between the leagues on some sort of viewing figures level or even just equally. Some way that would share even the domestic money more fairly and in some aligned european way. Im sure theres loads holes in this idea but some way to make a competitive not just european but domestic leagues again in europe is possible in my opinion, might not be the above but someone somewhere has the way. Accepting the ideas/scraps from uefa is just shite really. We should just do it ourselves "I don't like watching something we don't have a chance of winning". 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Merkland Red said: "I don't like watching something we don't have a chance of winning". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 11 hours ago, AB1872 said: Real drubbings are not that common in the group stages as the real powerhouses tend to do enough against the ‘diddy’ clubs to get through. As Bennet says above. Try and finish 3rd and drop into Europa League is the best bet for either Old Firm Glasgow Derby club. That way guarantees the money and gives us a sporting chance against similar size clubs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Ross. said: I’d imagine Rangers will now earn less from anything they do arrange than they normally would. If you were in the market for a club to take part in some friendly tournament or other, you’d see how they f*cked about the organisers of that one and steer clear unless they dropped their asking price a bit. It’s also the winter break, teams don’t normally have glamour matches/mini tournaments during that period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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