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[RandomGuy.]

12 minutes ago, mozam76 said:

He’s an absolute charlatan. 

Its interesting that QPR had actually started to fall apart by the time he left. When Rangers hired him he'd just overseen a 5 game winless run where they'd scored just 1 goal and by a lot of accounts didn't seem to have any idea of how to turn it around beyond just trying the same things over and over.

[Insaintee]

12 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

Wee Freddo signs for Santos.

Freddo is the type of player you expect to end up at Dundee once he turns thirty five

[Derry Alli]

29 minutes ago, Insaintee said:

Freddo is the type of player you expect to end up at Dundee once he turns thirty five

Here's hoping.

[Insaintee]

2 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

Here's hoping.

Yeah kind of get that, but I think generally these kind of signings don't really work out. 

[bennett]

The other Bennett is backing the manager,  correct choice.

 

ecord Sport understands Bennett is reluctant to be dragged into the ongoing bloodlust as the clamour grows for him to deliver the head of Beale on the back of a humbling Champions League exit in Eindhoven and a crushing derby loss to Celtic.

But while Bennett is determined to give Beale the benefit of the doubt in the short term, the Ibrox hierarchy are unlikely to allow the error-prone start to Beale’s first full season in charge to continue indefinitely. Which means the increasingly beleaguered boss will have to deliver an immediate upturn in results when the campaign restarts with an away trip to face St Johnstone in the league in 10 days’ time. Beale then faces a Europa League visit from Real Betis before another home game against Motherwell in the top flight on September 23 and a League Cup quarter final against Livingston at Ibrox four days later.

But having personally backed the manager’s massive rebuild over the summer, Bennett will be banking on Beale riding out that storm and going on to establish calm before the turn of the year. If Beale can negotiate a passage through to December without suffering any more damaging defeats he could have the chance to clinch the first trophy of the domestic season at Hampden before Christmas – and that piece of silverware could buy him the breathing space he badly needs for the second half of the season

 

 

 

[Ooooft.]

19 minutes ago, bennett said:

The other Bennett is backing the manager,  correct choice.

 

ecord Sport understands Bennett is reluctant to be dragged into the ongoing bloodlust as the clamour grows for him to deliver the head of Beale on the back of a humbling Champions League exit in Eindhoven and a crushing derby loss to Celtic.

But while Bennett is determined to give Beale the benefit of the doubt in the short term, the Ibrox hierarchy are unlikely to allow the error-prone start to Beale’s first full season in charge to continue indefinitely. Which means the increasingly beleaguered boss will have to deliver an immediate upturn in results when the campaign restarts with an away trip to face St Johnstone in the league in 10 days’ time. Beale then faces a Europa League visit from Real Betis before another home game against Motherwell in the top flight on September 23 and a League Cup quarter final against Livingston at Ibrox four days later.

But having personally backed the manager’s massive rebuild over the summer, Bennett will be banking on Beale riding out that storm and going on to establish calm before the turn of the year. If Beale can negotiate a passage through to December without suffering any more damaging defeats he could have the chance to clinch the first trophy of the domestic season at Hampden before Christmas – and that piece of silverware could buy him the breathing space he badly needs for the second half of the season

 

 

 

This is fantastic news.

[djchapsticks]

In all reality, what else could be expected of Beale?

Rangers have been an abject failure in both the Champions Leagie and by and large, at swinging punches at Celtic for a very, very long time.

I don't understand the mad clamour to change so soon without actually giving him a decent crack - yeah it may (probably will) fail but really, is that the route Rangers supporters want the club to go down?  Just bounding from one gaffer to then next as soon as anything goes awry?

[AJF]

9 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

In all reality, what else could be expected of Beale?

Rangers have been an abject failure in both the Champions Leagie and by and large, at swinging punches at Celtic for a very, very long time.

I don't understand the mad clamour to change so soon without actually giving him a decent crack - yeah it may (probably will) fail but really, is that the route Rangers supporters want the club to go down?  Just bounding from one gaffer to then next as soon as anything goes awry?

I think it’s a difficult one.

When he came in Celtic were light years ahead of us. Further cup exits to them done us no good, but he actually started to deliver improvements in the league and I think he finished the season with a better points per game ratio than Celtic had in the same time period.

Unfortunately the size of the rebuild required seems to have been too big a task and we have lost any momentum that we might have had. Performances have dropped and we don’t look like a cohesive team at all. I think the frustration is further amplified by the fact that Celtic also seem to have regressed massively and we’ve not been able to capitalise on that.

I think it is probably right to give him some more time given the extent of the squad revamp that he had to undertake, but if things don’t improve quickly then he will rightly be punted.

Edited September 6, 2023 by AJF

[RandomGuy.]

Rangers seem stuck in some mucky middle ground where they have to be a strong counter attacking side to compete at European level, but a strong possession based attacking side domestically. This is then muddled further by having a stronger team than them domestically that they cant play counter attacking football against (they could and could probably win, but i feel like any Rangers manager who accepts -30% possession v Celtic at home is getting hounded regardless).

Having to switch between styles from midweek to weekend, and have a squad to do so, is almost impossible and financially some Rangers fans still dont seem willing to accept where they sit.

I dont think Beales the right man to do the job, as he absolutely reeks of a successful coach who always knows why failed managers have gone wrong and who doesnt/didnt understand how hard being a manager actually is. But he was committed to this Summer with money spent/players signed so you'll likely have to give him time.

[stressball]

On 04/09/2023 at 16:14, Savage Henry said:

He reminds me of Charlie Brown. 

Reminds me of Charlie Chalk

[gannonball]

8 hours ago, stressball said:

Reminds me of Charlie Chalk

Make no mistake about that

Edited September 6, 2023 by gannonball

[Jinky67]

9 hours ago, AJF said:

I think it’s a difficult one.

When he came in Celtic were light years ahead of us. Further cup exits to them done us no good, but he actually started to deliver improvements in the league and I think he finished the season with a better points per game ratio than Celtic had in the same time period.

Unfortunately the size of the rebuild required seems to have been too big a task and we have lost any momentum that we might have had. Performances have dropped and we don’t look like a cohesive team at all. I think the frustration is further amplified by the fact that Celtic also seem to have regressed massively and we’ve not been able to capitalise on that.

I think it is probably right to give him some more time given the extent of the squad revamp that he had to undertake, but if things don’t improve quickly then he will rightly be punted.

A bit of a fallacy the points per game comment as it really doesn’t tell the story. He was 9 points behind Celtic when he took over, he was 13 points behind on the day we put it beyond him and won the league. Anything beyond then doesn’t really matter as the damage was done

[AJF]

1 hour ago, Jinky67 said:

A bit of a fallacy the points per game comment as it really doesn’t tell the story. He was 9 points behind Celtic when he took over, he was 13 points behind on the day we put it beyond him and won the league. Anything beyond then doesn’t really matter as the damage was done

The good thing about a points per game metric is that it takes into account all games and not just those against Celtic.

The argument that Celtic took their foot off the gas can be made, but it’s a good barometer if you consider he managed from December til May last season. Quite a large sample period.

[Jinky67]

1 hour ago, AJF said:

The good thing about a points per game metric is that it takes into account all games and not just those against Celtic.

The argument that Celtic took their foot off the gas can be made, but it’s a good barometer if you consider he managed from December til May last season. Quite a large sample period.

The good thing about a points per game metric is that it allows you paint whatever narrative you want to tell yourself but the only thing that matters is 13 is greater than 9.

And it’s not an argument mate, we dropped the same number of points in the last 4 games as we did in the previous 34. It’s pretty clear we took the foot off the gas.

But yeah points per game etc etc etc 

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Jinky67

[AJF]

1 hour ago, Jinky67 said:

The good thing about a points per game metric is that it allows you paint whatever narrative you want to tell yourself but the only thing that matters is 13 is greater than 9.

And it’s not an argument mate, we dropped the same number of points in the last 4 games as we did in the previous 34. It’s pretty clear we took the foot off the gas.

But yeah points per game etc etc etc 

 

Only you could take offence to a snippet of a generally critical post about Michael Beale as some sort of slight against Celtic.

Edited September 6, 2023 by AJF

[Jinky67]

18 hours ago, AJF said:

Only you could take offence to a snippet of a generally critical post about Michael Beale as some sort of slight against Celtic.

You could never offend me mate, you just don’t have that in you. 

[DukDukGoose]

On 06/09/2023 at 10:18, RandomGuy. said:

Rangers seem stuck in some mucky middle ground where they have to be a strong counter attacking side to compete at European level, but a strong possession based attacking side domestically. This is then muddled further by having a stronger team than them domestically that they cant play counter attacking football against (they could and could probably win, but i feel like any Rangers manager who accepts -30% possession v Celtic at home is getting hounded regardless).

Having to switch between styles from midweek to weekend, and have a squad to do so, is almost impossible and financially some Rangers fans still dont seem willing to accept where they sit.

I dont think Beales the right man to do the job, as he absolutely reeks of a successful coach who always knows why failed managers have gone wrong and who doesnt/didnt understand how hard being a manager actually is. But he was committed to this Summer with money spent/players signed so you'll likely have to give him time.

You could add Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs to this as well tbh.

[AJF]

Rumours around that Beale could be off after he has changed his instagram picture and has reportedly left a private instagram group that players and staff use. Surprised if he does go this early in the season.

[RandomGuy.]

4 minutes ago, AJF said:

Rumours around that Beale could be off after he has changed his instagram picture and has reportedly left a private instagram group that players and staff use. Surprised if he does go this early in the season.

Any coincidence it comes after Rangers used journalists to contradict what he'd been saying about your spending this Summer?

Seems like the club want fans to think you spent a fortune, while Beale wants fans to think he could only spend what they brought in.

[bennett]