WILLIEA Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This chap talks sense: https://stephenorourke.org/2016/06/25/scotlands-future/ That is indeed an excellent article and almost mirrors my own situation and feelings 100% FWIW I would be quite happy using the Euro. Might even be worth stating from the outset that that is what we would use. I have no emotional attachment to the pound. IMO it doesn't really matter what the currency is called as long as it buys stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Pound is fucked now anyway compared to 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 People vastly overstate the currency issue. The solution was there right from the start. We need our own currency, and just like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland etc we can choose to peg, float freely or do whatever when circumstances permit. We will be under no pressure to join the Euro, perversely because the oil price will mean our deficits are too big to join the ERM. Is setting up our own currency a simple process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Is setting up our own currency a simple process?Took years to create the Euro and it was a virtual currency for 3 years or so before notes and coins appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 People vastly overstate the currency issue. The solution was there right from the start. We need our own currency, and just like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland etc we can choose to peg, float freely or do whatever when circumstances permit. We will be under no pressure to join the Euro, perversely because the oil price will mean our deficits are too big to join the ERM. If we counted as a new entrant we would have to commit to the Euro eventually but it seems you can put off doing so indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Is setting up our own currency a simple process? No, but see above comment by Madwullie. Rather than launching the smackerooni, the best approach might be to do a Montenegro and peg things directly to the euro even before meeting the standard criteria. The RoI did something similar with the punt for decades where the pound was concerned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro_and_the_euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobahabba Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Voted no last time. Would vote yes this time. EU membership is a big deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 To a point. I got fed up when he talked about self immolation and started salivating at the prospect of more fund managers coming to setup base here. I want an alternative to the neoliberal, corporate obsessed society that we find ourselves in. Every journey starts with a single step. People vastly overstate the currency issue. The solution was there right from the start. We need our own currency, and just like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland etc we can choose to peg, float freely or do whatever when circumstances permit. We will be under no pressure to join the Euro, perversely because the oil price will mean our deficits are too big to join the ERM. It was one of the key issues of the NO campaign that seemed to sway people. Whilst the perception may be more important than the reality it is an issue that any future YES campaign would need to appear to have a more credible response to than in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 My dad and grandad are both swithering. Both are Tories but think Johnson/Gove combo is the worst possible outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep77 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Well? Are you? I am now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This guy is https://stephenorourke.org/2016/06/25/scotlands-future/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Again anecdotal, but the burd was a soft no but would now consider yes, and had a few beers tonight with a guy who voted no but now "understands the arguments for yes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 My Heriot row residing, filthy rich, tory voting customer is now a very definite yes. If that type are now Yes then it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Anyone still speak to Reynard? If he's Yes it's a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Anyone still speak to Reynard? If he's Yes it's a done deal. I think Tryfield has him as friend on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Anyone still speak to Reynard? If he's Yes it's a done deal. I'm honestly pretty shocked Reynard hasn't attempted a mass shooting and ended up taking his own life yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I think Tryfield has him as friend on Facebook. Guessing this is him!? https://mobile.twitter.com/TheZephyrus1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Guessing this is him!? https://mobile.twitter.com/TheZephyrus1969 God, he is such a fucking p***k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'm a 2014 YES and Leave voter who is now neutral until I weigh up all the options which will be brought to the table and I will listen all the lies which will be spouted by both sides before deciding if I'm YES or NO should there be a second Scottish referendum. I simply won't vote YES purely for the sake of it which I believe many of the younger generation did in 2014 I suggest Gnasher also doesn't rush into any sort of rash decisions until any exiting negotiations and agreements have been finalised As it stands at this moment in time I don't see the need for a second independence referendum, we won't be truelly independent until we rid ourselves of Westminster and Brussels. There's no point in jumping from the frying into the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 God, he is such a fucking p***k. Because he dares to have differing opinion to yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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