itzdrk Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They did turn up at my door once years ago so I just didn't answer it. Never saw them again. This is truly how ludicrous the situation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 i think the issue with changing to an advertising-based model isn't anything to do with viewers having to sit through ad breaks, but with the corporation being forced to change their programming (and editorial lines) to appeal to advertisers. In theory, programming is geared towards the viewer's needs at the moment, although I've no doubt plenty of folk would take issue with how that works in practice. It's worth bearing in mind that every sitting government is always narked off with the BBC's reporting, though. Judging by the comments on the thread so far, it appears that they've already switched to a subscription service anyway, as folk can quite happily not pay and the corporation carries on regardless without their money. Seems fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I let them in because I actually couldn't get a signal in my first flat. Works here though so would they f**k get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 i think the issue with changing to an advertising-based model isn't anything to do with viewers having to sit through ad breaks, but with the corporation being forced to change their programming (and editorial lines) to appeal to advertisers. In theory, programming is geared towards the viewer's needs at the moment, although I've no doubt plenty of folk would take issue with how that works in practice. It's worth bearing in mind that every sitting government is always narked off with the BBC's reporting, though. Judging by the comments on the thread so far, it appears that they've already switched to a subscription service anyway, as folk can quite happily not pay and the corporation carries on regardless without their money. Seems fair enough. In practice though the news coverageis every bit as right wing and sensationalist as sky and daytime n peak viewing is pretty awful. The quality output has to be searched for on BBC2 and bbc 4. Sky can point to likes of sky Atlantic for quality drama. Sitting govts moaning about the news coverage are like managers moaning about refs, just deflecting blame. In practice c4 news is massively superior in terms is asking hard questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 10 hours ago, pittsburgh phil said: They did turn up at my door once years ago so I just didn't answer it. Never saw them again. If you didn't answer the door, how the f**k did you know who they were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The BBC run adverts all the time, for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They turned up at mine once when I was a student. They got told to f**k off. Please note don't try this with the council tax, it ends less well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburgh phil Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 If you didn't answer the door, how the f**k did you know who they were? By looking out of the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just now, pittsburgh phil said: By looking out of the window Were they holding up a big board saying 'Hi Phil, we're the TV guys, let us in'? The more I think of it, if they were at the door, why were you looking out the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: They turned up at mine once when I was a student. They got told to f**k off. Please note don't try this with the council tax, it ends less well. As Grimbo well knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 hours ago, dogmc said: In practice though the news coverageis every bit as right wing and sensationalist as sky and daytime n peak viewing is pretty awful. The quality output has to be searched for on BBC2 and bbc 4. Sky can point to likes of sky Atlantic for quality drama. Sitting govts moaning about the news coverage are like managers moaning about refs, just deflecting blame. In practice c4 news is massively superior in terms is asking hard questions. You and I can argue that their output is awful, but millions would disagree. Presumably if their programming catered to our tastes more, there'd be an even greater number of angry licence fee payers complaining that they miss their programmes. Sky can point to Sky Atlantic all they want, but you have to pay substantially more than the licence fee to get it, so you'd certainly hope that the quality was better. The only problem is that the BBC licence fee is theoretically mandatory, but we seem to have already established that isn't the case in practice. No arguments about C4's news being more confrontational; I'd argue that if the BBC had a similar attitude to their news output, they'd be on the shortlist for privatisation pretty fast, and they know it. As far as it being right wing, you could say that they're not only trying to lean towards the government in order to keep their status, but also to the general public. There's no real argument that Britain doesn't lean to the right at the moment, no matter what we might think about it. It'll be gone soon enough anyway. Not sure that public opinion has turned enough for it to happy quite yet, but I'd be surprised if it was still publicly-owned by the time we have a change of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, sureiknow said: As Grimbo well knows I know it's only splitting hairs but it was the community tax that I was more au fait with. G-Bo(re) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: It'll be gone soon enough anyway. I would not be so sure of that. Two-thirds of the countries in Europe have TV licencing to fund public television. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 9 hours ago, Zen Archer said: The more I think of it, if they were at the door, why were you looking out the window? To see who was at the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 10 hours ago, Zen Archer said: Were they holding up a big board saying 'Hi Phil, we're the TV guys, let us in'? The more I think of it, if they were at the door, why were you looking out the window? Probably all the high tech equipment for locating houses that don't have a TV licence was the give away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said: Probably all the high tech equipment for locating houses that don't have a TV licence was the give away. Was it one of these? G-Bo(re) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Supposedly they worked by detecting the signal given off by CRT sets. They never explained how they managed to detect flat screen tellys with no valves, oscillators or CRTs. Lot of pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 And it's fucking LICENCE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: And it's fucking LICENCE!!!! I never had to buy one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: I never had to buy one of those. I did, from the Institute Of Advanced Fuckers. Three week course and a stiff examination but I'm now qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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