AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Harambe Legion said: It's in an earlier post of mine in this thread. Probably a couple pages back. 60%+ men unemployed and about 80% for women. These stats on unemployment and welfare use are seen with Somali immigrants all over Europe. The Netherlands and especially Sweden have a lot and there the figures are actually worse. The US (in the midwestern states) also has quite a few Somalis. There the high rates of unemployment are also present but lower mainly due to the US having a less generous welfare system. Even when they get jobs they are low-paying and they are unlikely to be net contributors. It has nothing to do with them being put in Sighthill. Most of them just aren't capable of being productive citizens in a complex developed society. For example they have extremely high rates of schizophrenia. This is true when they live in Somalia also. I haven't even touched on their crime rates but they are very high if you want to look at the figures. I just don't agree with "sending them back", there will be plenty of decent law abiding Somalians who came here to escape getting their heads chopped off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Harambe Legion said: Why? Do we have some responsibility to let in the entire world into a small nation? We don't let the entire world in, the very poor countries close to Somalia such as Kenya and Ethiopia have took by far the worst of it. We should certainly do our bit like any other rich, peaceful and outward looking country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Recall visiting Copenhagen a couple of years back through work and learning that the crime rate committed by Somali immigrants was 10 times higher than the national average per head of population. I understand that many have left their war-torn homeland in search of a safer life, with the opportunity of a home, job, healthcare and an education for their children. Denmark is a socially liberal country, that has welcomed those seeking security and protection and although a financially prudent country, welfare and healthcare are provided by the state, through taxation. Why should the crime rate be so high amongst this particular community group? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Harambe Legion said: You are pathetic. I'm right though. The academic evidence regarding immigration is overwhelmingly positive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 hours ago, Harambe Legion said: Because they are an economic drain (see my earlier post. majority of men and women are unemployed) and they commit a lot of crime. Again why should they stay? Having lived in Bristol for a few years I can assure you the Somali community there are a stain and a burden on that city , don't integrate, don't work, chew khat all day long, are at loggerheads with the long established and highly respected West Indian community because they see themselves as superior. The idiots who call for more immigration need to look at the English example of where it leads. It's NOTHING to do with colour, as some moron has suggested but everything to do with culture. Multiculturalism is a disaster for some urban parts of the UK. Multi ethnicity less so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Minnesota of all places took in a large Somali population. Very little integration, ghettoed, tension with other ethnic and religious communities. Why would you keep wanting to import severe division? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Minnesota of all places took in a large Somali population. Very little integration, ghettoed, tension with other ethnic and religious communities. Why would you keep wanting to import severe division? That's the Donald Trump version of events -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: I'm right though. The academic evidence regarding immigration is overwhelmingly positive Rose tinted article from someone with a Bulgarian surname.......Not something to set policy by. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Rose tinted article from someone with a Bulgarian surname.......Not something to set policy by. Aye, imagine looking at the research before deciding on policy. Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, EvilScotsman said: Aye, imagine looking at the research before deciding on policy. Fucking hell. Research by academics that are funded by the EU and who don't research the negative impacts such as a lack of investment in and training of the resident population , the stress on health and education services, transport and housing and the tension created by the lack of social cohesion by an unprecedented number of immigrants entering our society without any forward planning or controls.........That's not real research is it ? As I said, a rose tinted article written by an Eastern European immigrant funded by the EU with a vested interest in putting a positive spin on the subject ... We used to manage without 300,000 immigrants entering the UK every year. I'm sure we will be fine if we reduce that number a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Research by academics that are funded by the EU and who don't research the negative impacts such as a lack of investment in and training of the resident population , the stress on health and education services, transport and housing and the tension created by the lack of social cohesion by an unprecedented number of immigrants entering our society without any forward planning or controls.........That's not real research is it ? As I said, a rose tinted article written by an Eastern European immigrant funded by the EU with a vested interest in putting a positive spin on the subject ... We used to manage without 300,000 immigrants entering the UK every year. I'm sure we will be fine if we reduce that number a bit. It's a good point that's continually ignored, the infrastructure and resources required to properly support 300,000 (net) entrants per year just isn't there, there is a huge gap (£) before a net benefit contribution can be calculated. In the meantime health, education, employment and welfare services are stretched to the limit. It isn't the 'fault' of those arriving here, but surely the numbers of migrants entering the UK from within & outside the EU have to be managed according to their needs plus the consideration of communities that will initially host them, and help them to settle here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I heard Ruth Davidson interviewed on the lunchtime news talking about Wee Nicola starting to make an utter arse of herself over IndyRef2/Soft Brexit. It's the best I've heard Davidson and she's right. Nicola needs to stfu lest she becomes a single-issue tosser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deplorable Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: That's the Donald Trump version of events Somali immigrants have the worst reputation of any immigrant group in America. Same as almost every other country that takes them. Funny how that works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 We're a few months top before this forum starts advocating scientific racism. Bookmark it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, NotThePars said: We're a few months top before this forum agrees with swampy and starts advocating scientific racism,royalty is great and so is Christianity Bookmark it. Fixed that for you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, NotThePars said: We're a few months top before this forum starts advocating scientific racism. Bookmark it. Bullshit.....it was you and your ilk that started using the race card during the referendum. You condemned Brexiteers as racists and xenophobes and so let the genie out of the bottle. If you want to pigeonhole people by race and by colour then you reap what you sow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 33 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I heard Ruth Davidson interviewed on the lunchtime news talking about Wee Nicola starting to make an utter arse of herself over IndyRef2/Soft Brexit. It's the best I've heard Davidson and she's right. Nicola needs to stfu lest she becomes a single-issue tosser. Ruth comes across as someone who's completely out her depth and completely insincere. She talks about Labour "not laying a glove on the SNP" but she's been in the job for half a decade and gets utterly ragdolled every Thursday at FMQ. She's whore'd herself by becoming a mouthpiece for the mental UAS-style No voter in an attempt to pick up voters. I actually don't believe she believes have the shite she comes out with. Ruth isn't a patch on previous Conservative leaders: Annabel Goldie and the late David McLetchie. The constitutional divide has kept her in a job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I heard Ruth Davidson interviewed on the lunchtime news talking about Wee Nicola starting to make an utter arse of herself over IndyRef2/Soft Brexit. It's the best I've heard Davidson and she's right. Nicola needs to stfu lest she becomes a single-issue tosser. Ruthie fully supported Scotland and the U.K. remaining in the EU remember. She's an unprincipled blawhard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Aye. Sturgeon is the one making an arse of themselves over it.[emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Aye. Sturgeon is the one making an arse of themselves over it. Nicola is playing a blinder, she will be singing from the same song sheet as Theresa. Doing their best for this country and getting the Soft Brexit we want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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