kevthedee Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 She's doing what she was elected to do. And she is playing her cards well, the unionists are getting themselves worked up about a 2nd Indyref. I wonder why.... One of her election promises was to put education at the heart of this SNP government and make it "front and centre" in this parliament,clearly brexit is more important than her election promises as is indy 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 You Gov poll reveals the chasm between Scottish and British public opinion on the EU is as wide as ever. http://scotgoespop.blogspot.de/2017/01/yougov-polls-reveals-chasm-between.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: You Gov poll reveals the chasm between Scottish and British public opinion on the EU is as wide as ever. http://scotgoespop.blogspot.de/2017/01/yougov-polls-reveals-chasm-between.html So we're back to believing polls now are we? I don't think so.....questions engineered to get the required responses to promulgate the establishment narrative........Suckers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 So we're back to believing polls now are we? I don't think so.....questions engineered to get the required responses to promulgate the establishment narrative........Suckers! As a point of methodology The questions are the same for both sides of the border so if there's a systematic bias from "engineered" questions it will be the same on both sides. This means that in terms of differences between the two populations the biases would cancel each other out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: You Gov poll reveals the chasm between Scottish and British public opinion on the EU is as wide as ever. http://scotgoespop.blogspot.de/2017/01/yougov-polls-reveals-chasm-between.html Yes, quite startling the "regional" differentials that can exist in "one country." Aw shucks though. It seems the great uneducated Southern xenophobe horde are gradually (only gradually mind) becoming aware of the calamity of their idiocy. We are shackled to fuds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 7 hours ago, git-intae-thum said: Yes, quite startling the "regional" differentials that can exist in "one country." Aw shucks though. It seems the great uneducated Southern xenophobe horde are gradually (only gradually mind) becoming aware of the calamity of their idiocy. We are shackled to fuds. It shows me how Scots have no idea how to predict the future and that our Southern Saviours deserve our gratitude for doing our dirty work for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 On 11/01/2017 at 02:33, GTG_03 said: She's doing what she was elected to do. And she is playing her cards well, the unionists are getting themselves worked up about a 2nd Indyref. I wonder why.... theres no gonny be a sepref2 ya widdenheidedgormlesstwatt -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 theres no gonny be a sepref2 ya widdenheidedgormlesstwatt Where in that post did I say there was?Doesn't change the fact that scot Tories and labour are in a fair mess about the prospect.Pleasing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 theres no gonny be a sepref2 ya widdenheidedgormlesstwatt ^^^Worked up IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 May to reveal Brexit plan on Tuesday - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38626293 New Zealand planning free trade deal after Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38608716 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Hard Brexit is truly scary. Don't think most of the Leave side realise what they have done yet. No easy way ahead for Scotland, because the rUK is still the main trading partner making independence arguments in a hard Brexit scenario more difficult to sell to the silent majority that looks for rational pragmatic answers when there is no EU safety net to point to that provides free movement of labour, goods and services. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: May to reveal Brexit plan on Tuesday - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38626293 New Zealand planning free trade deal after Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38608716 "Something else in the headlines" on Wednesday "Germany Draws Up Contigency Invasion Plans By The European Union Army - or Wermacht for handiness sake" on Thursday "I Knew We Should Never Have Built That Bloody Tunnel Says The Queen" on Thursday evening "China Welcomes Boris With Open Arms" on Friday China Feeds Boris To The Pandas" on Friday evening "Australia Offers A Free Koala Bear To Every Briton If We Sign Up To A Wooly Trade Deal/Send Clive James Back/Keep Rolf Harris" on Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: May to reveal Brexit plan on Tuesday - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38626293 New Zealand planning free trade deal after Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38608716 And straight over the cliff we go! A trade deal with a nation of 5M who export wool, lamb, meat and dairy. Now, unless I'm seeing huge big dogs in the fields in my treks around the country we have plenty of these of our own? NZ has also indicated it will try to undercut any post brexit deal that UK farmers try to get with the EU. Time you got back to your unit! It's the 5th column over there! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, WILLIEA said: And straight over the cliff we go! A trade deal with a nation of 5M who export wool, lamb, meat and dairy. Now, unless I'm seeing huge big dogs in the fields in my treks around the country we have plenty of these of our own? NZ has also indicated it will try to undercut any post brexit deal that UK farmers try to get with the EU. Time you got back to your unit! It's the 5th column over there! Great news re: NZ. Someone will be the first and I'm glad it's such a wonderful ally like NZ. They will be the first of many. Most of the sheep in Scotland are only there because of subsidies anyway , so we will probably be a net gainer in that scenario. We could re-wild the barren hills and improve Scotland's biodiversity and gain economically from that. Anything is possible if you are a positive person and get with the programme.This is an age of opportunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, WILLIEA said: And straight over the cliff we go! A trade deal with a nation of 5M who export wool, lamb, meat and dairy. Now, unless I'm seeing huge big dogs in the fields in my treks around the country we have plenty of these of our own? NZ has also indicated it will try to undercut any post brexit deal that UK farmers try to get with the EU. Time you got back to your unit! It's the 5th column over there! But surely they're too wee tae be a nation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 So it looks like the hard Brexit route May will go down. A question: what about all the ex-pats living in Spain etc and all the EU nationals living here? Can they stay? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/15/theresa-may-uk-is-prepared-to-accept-hard-brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, McSpreader said: Great news re: NZ. Someone will be the first and I'm glad it's such a wonderful ally like NZ. They will be the first of many. Most of the sheep in Scotland are only there because of subsidies anyway , so we will probably be a net gainer in that scenario. We could re-wild the barren hills and improve Scotland's biodiversity and gain economically from that. Anything is possible if you are a positive person and get with the programme.This is an age of opportunity. The thing is, those sheep in Scotland have a far better life quality of life than English sheep. Much better grass, glorious views, pure water, clean air. They even have more wind turbine installed to pee against and shelter from the wind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, FlyerTon said: So it looks like the hard Brexit route May will go down. A question: what about all the ex-pats living in Spain etc and all the EU nationals living here? Can they stay? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/15/theresa-may-uk-is-prepared-to-accept-hard-brexit The Observer does not have any inside information and is just cribbing from the other Sunday papers. The Sunday Telegraph is the best source on May's speech- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/14/theresa-may-side-eurosceptics-major-brexit-speech-revealing/. Leaving the customs union does not necessarily mean a "hard Brexit". Norway is in the Single Market but not in the customs union. It is therefore free to negotiate trade deals with other countries. Turkey is in the customs union but is not a member of the Single Market. The Dutch DPM says that support for freedom of movement is eroding in the EU - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38613027. "Deputy prime minister Lodewijk Asscher said support was falling across Europe over the way it has been implemented. Free movement, which allows any citizen of an EU country to work anywhere across the bloc, had led to wages being undercut and jobs lost, he said. Mr Asscher argued the Brexit talks were a chance to look again at the policy." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, WILLIEA said: And straight over the cliff we go! A trade deal with a nation of 5M who export wool, lamb, meat and dairy. Now, unless I'm seeing huge big dogs in the fields in my treks around the country we have plenty of these of our own? NZ has also indicated it will try to undercut any post brexit deal that UK farmers try to get with the EU. Time you got back to your unit! It's the 5th column over there! Britain imports wool, lamb, meet and dairy products from New Zealand despite the EU's tariffs. A free trade deal would make those products cheaper. Are you dismissing the opportunities for an independent country with 5 million inhabitants to gain from bilateral free trade deals? An independent Scotland would need one with rUK which already has plenty of wool, lamb, meat and dairy. Are you advocating Scottish economic nationalism, i.e. protectionism with tariffs? Very Donald Trump! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exporting-to-new-zealand/exporting-to-new-zealandNew Zealand’s top 5 imports from the UK are:vehiclesmachinery and mechanical partselectrical machinery and goodsprint products, such as bookspharmaceutical products As far as I can see fromhttp://www.customs.govt.nz/incommercial/importcharges/dutiesandcharges/Pages/default.aspxTariffs are either low or nonexistent on these. I was checking on a phone so I may have missed something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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