Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: 23 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Yeah Ireland have done this in the space of a fortnight with is it Rosslaire or something. Already up and running and bypassing Dover completely. They did, think it was covered by an additional ferry service Wexford to Cherbourg. Amazing what you can do when you run your own affairs Aye, its something that should have been done decades ago really but WM was never interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: ...See when people say stuff like lets leave identity politics you really mean lets all stay British eh, .... No I genuinely mean being European federalist complete with the euro, Schengen and no Maastricht opt outs. The inability of the UK elite to properly embrace Europe because they wanted to "stay British" in a weird post-imperial twilight is what made the rise of Farage's brand of identity politics possible because none of the mainstream political parties were making a positive case for the European Union. Sammy Wilson is a bit of a low IQ individual in many ways but he is far from alone in that in UK politics. Edited January 16, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: No I genuinely mean being European federalist complete with the euro, Schengen and no Maastricht opt outs. The inability of the UK elite to properly embrace Europe because they wanted to "stay British" in a weird post-imperial twilight is what made the rise of Farage's brand of identity politics possible because none of the mainstream political parties were making a positive case for the European Union. Sammy Wilson is a bit of a low IQ individual in many ways but he is far from alone in that in UK politics. Its just a coincidence then that your preferred course of action retains control of Scotland in London and Scotland a part of the UK then? And your sneering contempt for those who wish simply to run their own country as practicing 'identity politics' is a bit of a giveaway mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I'd imagine that Rosyth will get an upgrade. Anything going through Gretna will be for England and Wales only. Might not be the answer for everything, especially time sensitive goods. Not sure about the costs either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 *Breaking news* Every single person, polity, nation, state and region on earth practices 'identity politics'. Its literally how human beings have organised their societies for thousands of years. Its only in Scotland we're told its immoral and disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Might not be the answer for everything, especially time sensitive goods. Not sure about the costs either. Trucks are taking days to clear customs in Dover, mate. Which is why Ireland has set up these ferry routes. HMRC are charging truckers £50 an hour to sit in a car park while the paperwork clears. It's madness. Edit: AN HOUR Edited January 16, 2021 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Trucks are taking days to clear customs in Dover, mate. Which is why Ireland has set up these ferry routes. HMRC are charging truckers £50 a day to sit in a car park while the paperwork clears. It's madness. Eventually it will get more automated and sealed containers with no EU or UK checks required will get fast tracked to get them out of the way. In a rational world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Eventually it will get more automated and sealed containers with no EU or UK checks required will get fast tracked to get them out of the way. In a rational world. £50 AN HOUR. I was wrong earlier. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/01/15/truckers-face-50-hour-charge-waiting-brexit-customs-checks/ Edited January 16, 2021 by Baxter Parp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: *Breaking news* Every single person, polity, nation, state and region on earth practices 'identity politics'. Its literally how human beings have organised their societies for thousands of years. Its only in Scotland we're told its immoral and disgusting. ...the difference between you banging on about the evils of London control and Sammy Wilson banging on about the evils of Dublin control or Nigel Farage banging on about the evils of Brussels control is what exactly? I'd prefer politics revolving around a shared set of social values that readily transcends national boundaries to them and us tribalism that cavemen from thousands of years ago would have understood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: ...the difference between you banging on about the evils of London control and Sammy Wilson banging on about the evils of Dublin control or Nigel Farage banging on about the evils of Brussels control is what exactly? I'd prefer politics revolving around a shared set of social values that readily transcends national boundaries to them and us tribalism that cavemen from thousands of years ago would have understood. The difference is fundamental. These people come from places which already have self-determination, therefore their issue is about identity, and real nationalism, and bigotry. Scotland is in a completey different situation which is best described as decolonisation, people in Scotland just seek control over their own lives not somebody else's. Your citizen of the world schtick is cute and would go down well in a first year uni dorm after a couple of joints but its nonsense. People have always organised themselves according to shared values, heritage, language, culture and yes also identity in some respects. It has ever been thus, you believe you are more enlightened when really you're just a bit more naive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Once foreign holidays are back, I can't wait to hear the stories about French and Spanish immigration officers trolling Brits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 57 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: ...Your citizen of the world schtick is cute and would go down well in a first year uni dorm after a couple of joints but its nonsense... You are Theresa May and I claim my £10. Would rather go on being a citizen of nowhere thank you very much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Trucks are taking days to clear customs in Dover, mate. Whit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, bendan said: Whit? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55659006 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTJohnboy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55659006 Johnny Foreigner's got a lot to answer for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: £50 AN HOUR. I was wrong earlier. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/01/15/truckers-face-50-hour-charge-waiting-brexit-customs-checks/ those are BRITISH PARKING FACILITIES and they are BETTER and HAPPIER for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Scottish fishermen land fish in Denmark to avoid post-Brexit red tape https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL4N2JQ3F9 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 A website prominent in the campaign to take the United Kingdom out of the European Union, Leave.EU, this week saw its domain name suspended, as .eu domains are restricted to users within the EU. To make matters worse for the site’s backers, the man who is listed as the site’s owner, a businessman from Waterford in Ireland, has denied any knowledge of the political group, and says his name was used without his permission. The top-level domain .eu can only be used by individuals or organisations registered in the EU, which is the reason why the domain changed its registration in the run-up to the end of 2019, when the change came into effect. The site is now registered in Ireland without the knowledge of the man listed as its owner. Businessman Sean Power told the Guardian last week, “My lawyers are looking into this on my behalf presently and will be in touch as deemed necessary in due course.” The question was raised by Irish MP Neale Richmond in a letter to the country’s telecommunications asking it to investigate how it was possible to hijack someone’s identity in this way. “It is utterly ridiculous to think that Leave.EU could brass-plate an address in Waterford to maintain their domain name,” Richmond said on Friday. “They wanted to leave the EU, they have, that means they leave their domain too.” The lobby group Leave.EU was originally set up by businessman Aaron Banks, who used part of his personal fortune to lobby for Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, MixuFruit said: ETA the obvious outcome of this will be lorries parking up on normal roads all over Kent to avoid paying it and making residents lives an absolute misery. Inject it into my veins. I read that they are already doing that and getting clamped for illegal parking in many cases. Edited January 17, 2021 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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