GiGi Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 In reality the Queen can do nothing but accept the PMs advice regardless of how batshit it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, Frankie S said: An unelected cabal of right wing fanatics take over the government, then signals its intention to suspend parliamentary democracy to force through a hugely divisive advisory referendum result, predicated upon lies, dirty money, social media manipulation and greed. You really couldn’t make it up. Dystopian fiction now reads like dewy-eyed optimism; satire is rendered redundant as even the most acerbic and cynical wits can’t keep pace with the ever-metastasising evil of populism: a toxic miasma of ever-shifting lies, deceit and untruths driven by unseen operators. It seems insufficient to merely proclaim that Britain is dead. The zombie carcass, in league with other dark forces throughout the globe, is still capable of inflicting great damage, and not only upon itself. While much of what you say is True, it shouldn't be forgotten that decades of "lies", "dirty money", "media manipulation" and "greed" have probably led us to Brexit in the first place. It was under the watch of New Labour and the similarly right leaning Democrats under Clinton and Obama who accelerated the wealth gap, pandered to the super rich and basically betrayed the very people that they were supposed to be representing. There really is no "good guys" in this whole debacle............ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, GiGi said: In reality the Queen can do nothing but accept the PMs advice regardless of how batshit it is. Bit from @Ad Lib 's piece here. Quote The prorogation of Parliament is a prerogative act, exercised by the Crown on the advice of the Privy Council. In practice, this advice is given by Ministers of the Crown. Whether the Crown must always follow Ministerial advice in the context of prorogation is contested but has not, in modern times, been tested in the United Kingdom. In other Westminster systems the prorogation power has been explicitly understood as a “reserve power”: that is, a power reserved to the head of state which may be exercised without approval by another branch of government. Although advice is taken from the relevant Premier, it need not be followed, and has not necessarily been. Were a UK Government to lose (or were to appear to be about to lose) the confidence of the Commons, it is not clear whether prorogation advice from Ministers would automatically be followed. This question has not been tested in the UK in modern times but was tested in Canada (in late 2008). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 If Brexit does get become a NO Deal disaster I would blame Corbyn as much as anyone else. The ineptitude of this "so called leader" really beggars belief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Bit from @Ad Lib 's piece here. Ok interesting. But if opposition MPs raise a VonC next week and lose the country hasn't a leg to stand on. If they win, general election anyway. I can't see a scenario where the Queen rejects the PM's advice here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Fine day to go short on on the pound 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: If Brexit does get become a NO Deal disaster I would blame Corbyn as much as anyone else. The ineptitude of this "so called leader" really beggars belief. I think I would definitely blame Boris Johnson more, seeing as he's the guy actively trying to bulldozer a no deal through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, GAD said: I think I would definitely blame Boris Johnson more, seeing as he's the guy actively trying to bulldozer a no deal through. It wouldn't have got this far if there had been an effective opposition in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Fine day to go short on on the pound Just stacked up on holiday money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Romeo said: What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now? Big Ears and Camilla Shagbag would be in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get_the_subbies_on Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Romeo said: What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now? National holiday or two I'd expect! (Obvs RIP etc) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, get_the_subbies_on said: National holiday or two I'd expect! (Obvs RIP etc) I just wonder if it would bring all this shite to a shuddering halt for a while. She should do the honourable thing. Also a couple of holidays would be decent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillyAnchor Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, GiGi said: Ok interesting. But if opposition MPs raise a VonC next week and lose the country hasn't a leg to stand on. If they win, general election anyway. I can't see a scenario where the Queen rejects the PM's advice here. I don't think she's allowed to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just in case anyone thinks the queen can do anything about this she can't, she has no power and is controlled by the Government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Jacksgranda said: I don't think she's allowed to. If there's good reason to believe he does not enjoy the confidence of the House, she might not have to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Shirley there already is a motion being considered by the Court of Session? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Romeo said: What would happen if the queen were to drop dead right now? Party? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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