Hedgecutter Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: If they're going to virtually allow N.I to remain in the EU they'll have to extend that courtesy to Scotland! 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: I agree with you, but why? Would require a hard border between Scotland and England seeing as we haven't had a body of water separating the two for ~450 million years. If they can work around that to avoid a hard border then they can work around the Irish border issue. Edited September 10, 2019 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Rightly or wrongly, there's lots of socialists out there who blame the EU for our current plight. Too many appear cosy with big business and of course the QE which massively accelerated the wealth gap post the banking crisis. If only it was as simple as "good guy" , "wa*k".............. I don’t disagree with that but as a percentage of Labour voters it’s a tiny minority and I reckon most would vote Labour even if it changed its policy on Brexit. I’ve said before that it’s ironic that a man who (rightly) condemned past Labour leaders for trying to single handedly determine policy has done so on one of the most crucial issues of our time, all to the detriment of Labour’s electoral chances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Ha ha, Arlene Foster is about to be fucked right over. Tremendous, bigoted auld cow Please confirm naebody's filming it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I don’t disagree with that but as a percentage of Labour voters it’s a tiny minority and I reckon most would vote Labour even if it changed its policy on Brexit. I’ve said before that it’s ironic that a man who (rightly) condemned past Labour leaders for trying to single handedly determine policy has done so on one of the most crucial issues of our time, all to the detriment of Labour’s electoral chances. That's a fair point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: Ha ha, Arlene Foster is about to be fucked right over. Tremendous, bigoted auld cow Example? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Example? This might help you. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/01/arlene-foster-accepts-invitation-to-lead-orange-order-parade Edited September 10, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, harry94 said: Lets hope these comments get leaked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: This might help you. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/01/arlene-foster-accepts-invitation-to-lead-orange-order-parade Touche, sir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, harry94 said: So, again.... Do you think the executive should have the power to shit all over the parliament? If not, what should the power balance be? I get it but it seems the least shit solution. It's maybe nice in theory to argue that the voters will then get their opportunity to decide for themselves and go to the polls in a few years but when massive decisions are being made that are arguably the biggest in peace time, I'd rather someone knows what the government is getting up to and can hold them accountable. This whole situation is absurd. Will of dah peepul is fair enough but it doesn't give a blank cheque to disaster capitalists to do whatever the f**k they want. But most of those that use this phrase really mean “stop the government doing what the referendum and 2017 election chose”. I hope that one day there will be an Indyref 2. And if it’s a Yes, I pray that we don’t have to listen to Lab/Con/Lib MPs MSPs screaming hysterically about “crashing out” and “disasters” and medicine shortages and 20 mile tailbacks at Gretna etc. SNP are being hypocrites and will certainly scream “will of the people” if it’s a 52-48 Yes. They would do well to remember that 1/3 of SNP voters voted Brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: But most of those that use this phrase really mean “stop the government doing what the referendum and 2017 election chose”. So did the 2016 referendum give the government a blank cheque to agree any sort of Brexit imaginable (i.e. anything from no agreement and indefinite WTO terms to single marker + customs union membership)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Lets hope these comments get leaked. I'd be surprised if Grieve et al don't already have them tbh. I think he's probably seen everything he's asked for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: This might help you. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/01/arlene-foster-accepts-invitation-to-lead-orange-order-parade Orange walks are not my cup of tea and are not very relevant to 21st century Scotland - although presumably they are to mark a major part of what made Scotland. But attending one is proof of bigotry? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, harry94 said: So did the 2016 referendum give the government a blank cheque to agree any sort of Brexit imaginable (i.e. anything from no agreement and indefinite WTO terms to single marker + customs union membership)? Yes. Q was leave or remain. (At least the people were actually asked unlike Lisbon and Maastricht) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, MixuFixit said: I agree with you, but why? Unlike in NI we have no treaty that requires this. It’s not the treaty that’s the brake though. It’s the barely concealed threat of “ if you don’t do what we want, a few hundred of the IRA will restart executing low rank public servants and blowing up women and children on Saturday morning High Streets”. Thankfully, the Scots are just not that zealous about independence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Orange walks are not my cup of tea and are not very relevant to 21st century Scotland - although presumably they are to mark a major part of what made Scotland. But attending one is proof of bigotry?^ Ramblings of a bigot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 20 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: Orange walks are not my cup of tea and are not very relevant to 21st century Scotland - although presumably they are to mark a major part of what made Scotland. But attending one is proof of bigotry? ^ Ramblings of a bigot I'm guessing he's not from around these parts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 If they wanted to keep the post Brexit research secret, why the f**k call it Yellowhammer? It would have probably have gone unnoticed if they called it Planning Guidance Prospectus or something equally banal instead of a name that could have been the title of a 70's Government conspiracy film.The yellowhammer's song is supposed to sound like "a little bit of bread.. ..and no cheese!", which suggests some cùnt in Whitehall has a sense of humour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pet Jeden said: Yes. Q was leave or remain. (At least the people were actually asked unlike Lisbon and Maastricht) What a load of shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaspianChris Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 As if things can not get more farcical because of Brexit. If independence is good enough for London then it is for Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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