Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ross. said: Hiya Mr Juncker, hiya pal! You c***s are meant to stay neutral! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Didn't the EU say the only would only extend for an election or referendum? The last time around? They will extend if needed, although I think this deal might end up getting through. The ERG will mostly back it and half if not more of the now whipless Tories will ; and probably enough useful Labour idiots like Kinnock, Flint, Nandy etc will all go for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kejan said: She was a terrible, stubborn and basically shite politician, but May must be spewing seeing Boris basically taking her deal and possibly getting it done. If there is a second referendum amendment, surely then the DUP might back this now as the Union is far more important to them than any Brexit deal at all. As for the DUP, Carson had it summed up many years ago “What a fool I was. I was only a puppet. And so was Ulster, and so was Ireland. In the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power.” The DUP's ineptness has moved a united Ireland from a pipe dream to almost certainty in the near future. If May never went to the polls, she probably would have survived the Grieve amendment and not needed to get any of this to a vote at all. There was maybe a small risk with the narrow majority but things hardly could have went worse with the election decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 If an extension is requested it will be granted, irrespective of whatever lines Juncker is spinning today. On the face of it Saturday's vote looks close. An 'interesting' few days in store. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, George Parr said: If an extension is requested it will be granted, irrespective of whatever lines Juncker is spinning today. On the face of it Saturday's vote looks close. An 'interesting' few days in store. Yeah, I'd be astonished otherwise. Think they are just playing madman to try and push parliament to do something - maybe political cover for Boris to try and spin his way into a second referendum. This is a pain for the EU but not getting an agreement doesn't end the political uncertainty by a longshot and then it leads to an economic hit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 View from NI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Juncker clearly upping the Ante and knowing full well the UK media will use the words to spin this as deal vs no deal. This Deal is good for the EU and is the best possible for a UK wanting to leave. It will be a fucking disaster for Scotland and NI though. Scotland in an economic sense and NI in a security sense. Neither of which will see a single toss given by Johnson, Gove, Farage, Rees Mogg etc... If deal approved, the Section 30 request should follow immediately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Double Jack D said: Neither of which will see a single toss given by Johnson, Gove, Farage, Rees Mogg etc... If you are looking to make money long term from shorting GBP, this is possibly the best outcome. You won't get the immediate pay off that would come with a no deal Brexit but I fail to see any upside in the long term with all the problems it will cause. The only way is down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Distant Doonhamer said: I can see lots of items saying DUP won’t support this deal but can’t as yet find anything which confirms they will vote against it. I’ve seen lots of assumptions that they will vote against but nothing directly from them. Given their strongly held views abstaining in the vote would seem bizarre though. BBC saying that the DUP will vote against the deal. Good news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: BBC saying that the DUP will vote against the deal. Good news. There appears to be a "as things stand" caveat in the small print of what they are saying, so they haven't completely closed the door. They'll definitely want a Unionist veto on the 2024 Stormont vote as that's part of the GFA. Edited October 17, 2019 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Has anyone plugged in Corbyn today ? I'm hearing next to nothing from his direction. Is there a Farmers Market in Hackney or something ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Sinn Fein welcome the deal as the "least worst option", probably to wind up the DUP. And Juncker says it's this deal or no deal. The EU27 would have to agree with him on that though, could be bluster to push the deal through Parliament. It's the EU Parliament that has to agree it, it doesn't have to go through each country's parliament, but, essentially, yes, the EU 27 have to agree it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You c***s are meant to stay neutral! and pile up the gold... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: It's the EU Parliament that has to agree it, it doesn't have to go through each country's parliament, but, essentially, yes, the EU 27 have to agree it. The EU27 leaders are debating it right now, and will vote on it. Then it has to get passed by the EU Parliament as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The deal won't get through Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: There appears to be a "as things stand" caveat in the small print of what they are saying, so they haven't completely closed the door. They'll definitely want a Unionist veto on the 2024 Stormont vote as that's part of the GFA. They won't have a unionist veto in Stormont (assuming it restarts) - unless they pick up more seats should there be an election - as there are currently more pro EU MLAs than anti. And there is no veto - unionist or otherwise - under the Belfast Agreement, these sort of decisions require cross community support/consensus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: The EU27 leaders are debating it right now, and will vote on it. Then it has to get passed by the EU Parliament as well. 8 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: It's the EU Parliament that has to agree it, it doesn't have to go through each country's parliament, but, essentially, yes, the EU 27 have to agree it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ross "honest i slipped" Thomson is not best please his beloved Boris has sold the union down the swanny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: They won't have a unionist veto in Stormont (assuming it restarts) - unless they pick up more seats should there be an election - as there are currently more pro EU MLAs than anti. And there is no veto - unionist or otherwise - under the Belfast Agreement, these sort of decisions require cross community support/consensus. It's the petition of concern mechanism I am referring to. If they have 30 MLAs in 2024, they can block any change to the backstop with a majority of self-designated Unionist votes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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