Granny Danger Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: I reckon someone will be out with the 'redacting' gun overnight... Given how things leak that would be crazy. But not impossible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) With the current state of political flux it really is a damned shame that there is no-one loudly banging the Remain drum. Never mind all the economic and societal negatives, it's high time the hypocrisy of many Leave voters was called out. Perhaps Dimbleby could do a service by asking just how many Leavers in his next QT audience have paid an EU tradesman cash in hand for a job, or how many of these same folk would be willing to publicly declare that they would be quite happy to pay more for their veg once the migrant workers depart East Anglia. And be under no illusions, once things go tits up all those British Bulldogs demanding 'Democracy' and 'Taking Back Control' will be the first and the loudest to squeal like stuck pigs. They really are a shower, these bams. Edited December 4, 2018 by O'Kelly Isley III 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: I've said that article 50 would be extended and brexit wouldn't happen (nap) for over a year now. This is what's happening. Article 50 will be extended to allow for a people's vote. I for one am delighted but it's a shocking afront to democracy You've said about every other variation will happen anaw, mate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: With the current state of political flux it really is a damned shame that there is no-one loudly banging the Remain drum. Never mind all the economic and societal negatives, it's high time the hypocrisy of many Leave voters was called out. Perhaps Dimbleby could do a service by asking just how many Leavers in his next QT audience have paid an EU tradesman cash in hand for a job, or how many of these same folk would be willing to publicly declare that they would be quite happy to pay more for their veg once the migrant workers depart East Anglia. And be under no illusions, once things go tits up all those British Bulldogs demanding 'Democracy' and 'Taking Back Control' will be the first and the loudest to squeal like stuck pigs. They really are a shower, these bams. I think the SNP have banged the remain drum but has had little UK coverage and not significantly more Scottish coverage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Word the next referendum better. Stay in the EU. Leave the EU with no deal. Leave the EU with Theresa May's deal. Wetherspoons is the best pub ever. Burnley would vote for the Wetherspoons option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Bercow's been sat on his chair since about 11.30am this morning. Don't even think he's been out for a pee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Bercow's been sat on his chair since about 11.30am this morning. Don't even think he's been out for a pee. Maybe he didn't need to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: What makes you think another vote won't choose leave again? The polls are almost exactly as they were before the last vote. I don't know what polls you are looking at but most recent ones show a swing from Leave to Remain of around 4-5%. The polls are saying the same now as they did before the last referendum. I don't know how I could make that clearer, even to Granny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think the SNP have banged the remain drum but has had little UK coverage and not significantly more Scottish coverage. Ian Blackford isn’t the right man to lead the charge at WM I’m afraid. I think people just switch off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Ian Blackford isn’t the right man to lead the charge at WM I’m afraid. I think people just switch off. He's still more effective as an opposition leader than Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The polls are saying the same now as they did before the last referendum. I don't know how I could make that clearer, even to Granny. So they got it wrong before therefore they will get it wrong again. That’s some logic! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Ian Blackford isn’t the right man to lead the charge at WM I’m afraid. I think people just switch off. If by "people", you mean MPs from the opposition parties, then you would be right. But that has nothing to do with it being Ian Blackford and everything to do with the party which is constantly swept aside at Westminster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: So they got it wrong before therefore they will get it wrong again. That’s some logic! There is no right or wrong in politics, just different view points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The polls are saying the same now as they did before the last referendum. I don't know how I could make that clearer, even to Granny.Recall the latest NCSR poll (reported in the Independent) on a 2nd Vote, had the result reversed in favour of remain at 52/48. The complete disarray we have seen at Westminster over the last few weeks will surely have nudged that further apart, given that no-one seems to be satisfied with May’s proposed deal and most agreed that a ‘No deal’ is unthinkable. With time running out it seems to me that more and more people are edging towards the status quo. Who on earth wants to be worse off than we (The UK) are under the current arrangement as an EU member? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Bercow's been sat on his chair since about 11.30am this morning. Don't even think he's been out for a pee. Doing a night shift. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Recall the latest NCSR poll (reported in the Independent) on a 2nd Vote, had the result reversed in favour of remain at 52/48. The complete disarray we have seen at Westminster over the last few weeks will surely have nudged that further apart, given that no-one seems to be satisfied with May’s proposed deal and most agreed that a ‘No deal’ is unthinkable. With time running out it seems to me that more and more people are edging towards the status quo. Who on earth wants to be worse off than we (The UK) are under the current arrangement as an EU member? Actually, according to the polls, 26% back her deal while 34% back no deal/clean break While only around 40% oppose either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Debate still going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_jDcN90Nt0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 If by "people", you mean MPs from the opposition parties, then you would be right. But that has nothing to do with it being Ian Blackford and everything to do with the party which is constantly swept aside at Westminster.But, the only show in town? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Round 2 today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, doulikefish said: Round 2 today Ding, ding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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