Detournement Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I read that earlier. It's classic conspiracy theory stuff. Listing loads of details and implying they are connected without actually providing the connections. Apparently a dodgy businessman recommending to Trump's lawyer toc onsider offering Putin a condo in a tower which was never built or even designed is going to be a legal problem for Trump...... Quote Our president steals from poor people: that’s what that lawsuit is about. Your entire economy is based on stealing from poor people! Your country is literally stolen. Russiagate nutters make the FBPE Meltdom look rational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Mueller has recommended Michael Flynn receive no jail time, in return for his cooperation in ongoing investigations. They had 19 face to face meetings, in which Flynn has provided valuable information. It’s popcorn time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Mueller has recommended Michael Flynn receive no jail time, in return for his cooperation in ongoing investigations. They had 19 face to face meetings, in which Flynn has provided valuable information. It’s popcorn time. That's a shame. After all his rabid chanting about locking her up it would have been nice to see Flynn behind bars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Mueller has recommended Michael Flynn receive no jail time, in return for his cooperation in ongoing investigations. They had 19 face to face meetings, in which Flynn has provided valuable information. It’s popcorn time. That seems to be the take - outside the insane Fox News/Infowars axis of dumbness. Flynn's singing like a canary. You do have to remember that what he's so far been charged with carries a 0-6 month sentence, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Could be some juicy stuff blacked out here. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/513-flynn-memo-addendum/1cff0d8d2bb911c7f240/optimized/full.pdf#page=1?&te=1&nl=morning-briefing&emc=edit_nn_p_20181205§ion=topNews 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Piss weak "a source told us" stuff here but still believable given how incredibly dense Trump is.https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, RiG said: Piss weak "a source told us" stuff here but still believable given how incredibly dense Trump is.https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up I remember him saying in the campaign that America should do the same as he did in business when he had an unsustainable debt, tell the banks to either write off part of his debt or they'd get nothing as he'd declare bankruptcy. Not sure what tanking bond prices would do to the economy. He ended up having to deal with foreign banks like Deutsche Bank as none of the American ones would have anything to do with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Ameria can't go bankrupt. It's logically impossible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Ameria can't go bankrupt. It's logically impossible.Trump managed to bankrupt a casino, so anything’s possible. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Trump bankrupting America would cement his status as a modern day equivalent of a Habsburg prince. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 33 minutes ago, Detournement said: Ameria can't go bankrupt. It's logically impossible. He wasn't suggesting that literally, just that they could refuse to honour all their debt and their debtors could do nothing about it. It's the Trump way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, Detournement said: Ameria can't go bankrupt. It's logically impossible. It's already going backrupt, along with the rest of Italy m8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 It's an old saying that if you owe the bank £100 it's your problem but if you owe it £100m it's the banks problem. This is Trump's philosophy in a nutshell. Always has been. You've got to admire the sociopath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: It's an old saying that if you owe the bank £100 it's your problem but if you owe it £100m it's the banks problem. This is Trump's philosophy in a nutshell. Always has been. You've got to admire the sociopath. Bet you wish you shared the same philosophy. I know I do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, BawWatchin said: Bet you wish you shared the same philosophy. I know I do. Not in the slightest. Some b*****d has to pay and it won't be the banks or the rich. It will be the usual poor fuckers who will get screwed. You only need to look at the 2008 crash for proof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Not in the slightest. Some b*****d has to pay and it won't be the banks or the rich. It will be the usual poor fuckers who will get screwed. You only need to look at the 2008 crash for proof. So what would you rather be. The rich who aren't paying for it, or one of the usual poor fuckers who will get screwed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BawWatchin said: So what would you rather be. The rich who aren't paying for it, or one of the usual poor fuckers who will get screwed? I'm not paying for it. I've done pretty well since 2008 because I've got a bit of money. That's partly my point. The people with less money got screwed by austerity and the QE just helped the folk with cash to invest in the markets. Hardly fair is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: I'm not paying for it. I've done pretty well since 2008 because I've got a bit of money. That's partly my point. The people with less money got screwed by austerity and the QE just helped the folk with cash to invest in the markets. Hardly fair is it? But investing in the markets, expands the economy and improves GDP. If they had gone after the people with money instead, there would have been less investment in the markets, the economy would have shrunk and everybody would have been worse off, including the poorest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: But investing in the markets, expands the economy and improves GDP. If they had gone after the people with money instead, there would have been less investment in the markets, the economy would have shrunk and everybody would have been worse off, including the poorest. There is a school of thought that the economy would have been boosted more by simply giving the money spent on QE directly to people for them to spend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: There is a school of thought that the economy would have been boosted more by simply giving the money spent on QE directly to people for them to spend. Spending and market investment are not the same thing though. Spending money doesn't generate more wealth in the economy, it just shifts it around. In order to increase the overall wealth of an economy, market investment needs to be prioritized. Having more money in your pocket is meaningless if the economy is collapsing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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