smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I don't find that surprising, sadly. Fair point. However, as much as it's unsurprising, it's still a desperate and frankly a sick way of one-upping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, smpar said: Fair point. However, as much as it's unsurprising, it's still a desperate and frankly a sick way of one-upping. Let's be honest, there are plenty of people for whom supporting a football team is about finding a socially acceptable outlet for being a complete c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: I don't find that surprising, sadly. I suspect the true numbers of victims is far, far higher. If you think about it, 350 really isn't many at all, just 10 per year roughly since the 80s across the entire UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, smpar said: Fair point. However, as much as it's unsurprising, it's still a desperate and frankly a sick way of one-upping. there have been and no doubt be worse point scoring between fans in the future 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: there have been and no doubt be worse point scoring between fans in the future What has been - and will be - worse than using cases of rape and sexual abuse against children just so you can gloat to someone supporting another football team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, smpar said: What has been - and will be - worse than using cases of rape and sexual abuse against children just so you can gloat to someone supporting another football team? Plane crashes, multiple deaths, suicide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 43 minutes ago, Gnash said: I suspect the true numbers of victims is far, far higher. If you think about it, 350 really isn't many at all, just 10 per year roughly since the 80s across the entire UK. Agreed. That's only the ones who have come forward - how many more are still too embarrassed to admit it happened to them? Bristow's comments won't have helped as some may be thinking he was right and they should have done something about it, and people will look down on them because they didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, 7-2 said: Plane crashes, multiple deaths, suicide. I'm being pedantic here(and perhaps whooshed), but who uses those things for point-scoring? EPL fans don't say, "yeah, well at least my team didn't die in a plane in the late fifties" to Man Utd fans. To save us from really going off on a tangent, my initial comment (I'm sure that's what ICTChris was getting at, too) was that it's utterly abhorrent that some people really think it's acceptable to cite such disgusting events in an attempt to make their team look, in any way, superior to someone else's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 37 minutes ago, smpar said: I'm being pedantic here(and perhaps whooshed), but who uses those things for point-scoring? EPL fans don't say, "yeah, well at least my team didn't die in a plane in the late fifties" to Man Utd fans. To save us from really going off on a tangent, my initial comment (I'm sure that's what ICTChris was getting at, too) was that it's utterly abhorrent that some people really think it's acceptable to cite such disgusting events in an attempt to make their team look, in any way, superior to someone else's. The words may be different but the motive is the same. It's football and sadly absolutely everything is considered fair game no matter how sick it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I for one am stunned that a Newco supporter was the one to excuse the use of child abuse as one-upmanship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, smpar said: What has been - and will be - worse than using cases of rape and sexual abuse against children just so you can gloat to someone supporting another football team? How about singing songs about kids dying in stadium disasters? People dying in plane crashes People dying of cancer and other causes Football has always been crass and of low morales, why you are shocked i have no idea Edited December 1, 2016 by 54_and_counting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: How about singing songs about kids dying in stadium disasters? Jesus suffering f**k. Please don't tell me you're really trying to rank them in terms of severity? I really should have mentioned that the post you quoted was meant to be asked somewhat rhetorically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, smpar said: I'm being pedantic here(and perhaps whooshed), but who uses those things for point-scoring? EPL fans don't say, "yeah, well at least my team didn't die in a plane in the late fifties" to Man Utd fans. To save us from really going off on a tangent, my initial comment (I'm sure that's what ICTChris was getting at, too) was that it's utterly abhorrent that some people really think it's acceptable to cite such disgusting events in an attempt to make their team look, in any way, superior to someone else's. tbf there's the somewhat notorious song - mainly, and tbh probably historically, by small numbers of Leeds Utd, Liverpool, Man City, maybe Chelsea- fans about "who's that lying on the runway, who's that dying in the snow..." I've no idea how common they are anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, smpar said: What has been - and will be - worse than using cases of rape and sexual abuse against children just so you can gloat to someone supporting another football team? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, dorlomin said: I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, smpar said: I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. That point scoring over child abuse is acceptable because other bad things happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, Jimmy85 said: That point scoring over child abuse is acceptable because other bad things happen. I had a feeling that's what he was going for. What an odd way to look at things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jimmy85 said: That point scoring over child abuse is acceptable because Its almost as if you deliberately misread what was said to sh*t stir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If two people shout racist abuse at a player from my team can I call them both paedos? What's the exchange rate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Its almost as if you deliberately misread what was said to sh*t stir. Not really, as it kind of sounds like you're saying that referring to cilhd sex abuse victims can't be condemned as much as singing about murders or war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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