Dons_1988 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 zidane wants dembele to replace Benzema Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Whilst I'm not sure that I get all the hype behind Dembele (less league goals than Liam Boyce as someone pointed out earlier) I don't see how anyone could be surprised at the prospect of a club paying £20+ million for him or any other exotic sounding name at Celtic. In fact if Liam Boyce had scored 15 league goals (or whatever it is) and was instead playing for Celtic and called Lio Boycetti then I'd guess he'd be valued as about a £5 million player.On a related note anyone who thinks West Ham (or anyone) will make an opening bid of £20m for Dembele are crazy in my opinion. English clubs will offer Celtic £7m (or something similar) plus add-ons which Celtic, if they have any sense, will reject. From there the negotiations will start but no way is any team coming to Celtic with an opening bid of £20m not least Sullivan and Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Celtic might get £40m if Dembele was on a Ralph Milne 10 year contract but he's not so they'll probably get £10-20m depending upon how long he has left on his contract. £25m best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor7 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Celtic won't sell Dembele in this transfer window. He will have another crack at the Champions league and then probably be sold January next year. I reckon Celtic will get in the region of 15 - 20 million if he scores a few in Europe again. The way money is getting thrown about down south at the moment, they should be looking for at LEAST 15 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Celtic might get £40m if Dembele was on a Ralph Milne 10 year contract but he's not so they'll probably get £10-20m depending upon how long he has left on his contract. £25m best case scenario. He'd be better working at asda imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just now, RandomGuy. said: He'd be better working at asda imo perhaps if he was in his mid-late 20's, on £450pw, playing for Morton and had a young family to support he might..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Contracts mean nothing when richer clubs are interested. Wot. The contract a player is on plays a significant part in dictating that players value. To say they mean nothing just because another club has money is a weird and stupid statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jake Burns said: Gonna be a lot of egg on a lot of faces, I can see this thread getting bumped, and bumped, and bumped. You having another three accounts before he's finally sold seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 West Ham bid £3m for Snodgrass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 You can't argue with Celtic's signing strategy. Over the years there's been very little value to be had in developing Scottish international players, at least for financial gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Greenlantern said: You can't argue with Celtic's signing strategy. Over the years there's been very little value to be had in developing Scottish international players, at least for financial gain. Because your club doesn't 'develop' promising Scottish players, you buy them and leave them to rot in the under 23s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, CountyFan said: Because your club doesn't 'develop' promising Scottish players, you buy them and leave them to rot in the under 23s. Whit?? We either develop our own or we buy them young from other Scottish clubs and do our best to develop them further. Sometimes players do not have the right mentality to play for Celtic or just don't develop for whatever reason. Here are some players in the past 15-20 years that we have either developed on our own or signed before they reached 24 years old (seeing as you used U23s) and developed them further. Tierney, Brown, Armstrong, Christie, McGregor, Forrest, Henderson, Griffiths, Mulgrew, Maloney, Marshall, McManus. How many players have come through Ross County's ranks and played for Scotland in your history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Because your club doesn't 'develop' promising Scottish players, you buy them and leave them to rot in the under 23s. Who was left to rot in the under 23s, if there even is such a squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 On 05/01/2017 at 18:39, Malcolm Malcolm said: West Ham are West Ham and are therefore trashy as f*ck. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 You can hardly count griffiths on a list like that. Can hardly count Mulgrew either considering they released him, before resigning him after he'd improved at Aberdeen. The problems not with the players Celtic bring through themselves, it's the players they sign from elsewhere who then just get dumped in the stands for "not being good enough" that annoys folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Can hardly count Mulgrew either considering they released him, before resigning him after he'd improved at Aberdeen. The problems not with the players Celtic bring through themselves, it's the players they sign from elsewhere who then just get dumped in the stands for "not being good enough" that annoys folk. He was Celtic till he 20 ffs, didnt get released either, was part of a swap deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 He was Celtic till he 20 ffs, didnt get released either, was part of a swap deal. Well yeah, but he never played a single game for you in that first spell, so I've no idea how you can claim credit for developing a 20yo who never played a game for you really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Tartantony said: Whit?? We either develop our own or we buy them young from other Scottish clubs and do our best to develop them further. Sometimes players do not have the right mentality to play for Celtic or just don't develop for whatever reason. Here are some players in the past 15-20 years that we have either developed on our own or signed before they reached 24 years old (seeing as you used U23s) and developed them further. Tierney, Brown, Armstrong, Christie, McGregor, Forrest, Henderson, Griffiths, Mulgrew, Maloney, Marshall, McManus. How many players have come through Ross County's ranks and played for Scotland in your history? You literally buy the best players from every other team in the league and then never play them. It's not so you can develop them, it's so you can stifle the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 It's not fair to say they buy up young players with no intention of playing them just so no one else can.It is however fair to say there's a problem in world football not just Scotland with the biggest clubs stockpiling young players and ultimately 90% of them not playing first team football. They can afford to pay a young talent say 5k a week to tempt them to Celtic instead of anyone else in Scotland who don't pay their best players even close to that.Not sure what the answer is, potentially a salary cap on players under 18 so they are affordable to the diddies of the country. They can still go to Celtic if they want but the financial temptation isn't there. Downside being if that was Scotland only the best young players would simply disappear to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, CountyFan said: You literally buy the best players from every other team in the league and then never play them. It's not so you can develop them, it's so you can stifle the competition. Nonsense, even notwithstanding your use of the word 'literally'. Stuart Armstrong plays for Celtic because he has proven himself good enough to play for Celtic. Scott Brown ditto. Leigh Griffiths ditto, at least until a better player unseated him. The likes of Mackay-Steven, Scott Allan and Nadir Ciftci have had chances and blown them. ETA - And it occurs to me that Mackay-Steven may get further chances once Roberts leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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