The Moonster Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, wastecoatwilly said: Do you want me to dig the hole for you?Maybe you haven't noticed but since the bosman ruling players have the power. You're a lunatic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Moonster said: You're a lunatic. Is that your adult response because you don't have a debate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Is that your adult response because you don't have a debate? I've tried debating you, it's a lost cause so you can wire in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Do you want me to dig the hole for you?Maybe you haven't noticed but since the bosman ruling players have the power. Please do. What point are you actually trying to make here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Blue Brazil Forever said: How did the game compare with a Dumbarton game, particularly in terms of skills, abilities and standard of entertainment on offer ( I am being very serious here ). I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. Lincoln are a full-time team averaging about 8,500 in league games. Dumbarton are (IIRC) part-time and have an average of less than a thousand. Lincoln pull more than the 6th-best followed team in Scotland. Quote On another point when was the last time a minor game such as this was carried on TV in Scotland. Alba show a fair amount of lower league and Challenge Cup football. They're showing the ICT v Crusaders semi-final live, that's the equivalent of the Lincoln v Chelsea U23 match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, The Moonster said: I've tried debating you, it's a lost cause so you can wire in. I think you having a compete mare here suits me fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think im having a compete mare here. Ftfy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: I think you having a compete mare here suits me fine. Dunning has the willpower to debate you, please oblige; 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Please do. What point are you actually trying to make here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: So would you approve if it was hibs and hearts colts or motherwell and hamilton colts making the proposal? No I don't think any club should have 2 places in the SPFL. I was being tongue in cheek with the Ireland thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: Again you are incapable of seeing the bigger picture,we have a monster on our door step,young talent in this country see the big bright lights with a better bank balance. Scott Allan was that rabbit now trying to rekindle his career or what is left of it. i think you come from a long list of fannies. If the monsters at the door, what the fucks inside the house? That's a jibe at Rangers and Celtic btw, incase you didn't quite understand it. The joke was approved by a board of folk I asked, so it's definitely funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazil85 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Well done Stenny 100% clarifying themselves as good guys tonight. Stated before but if all the good guys/ likely good guys vote as expected deal is completely dead. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42977922 Confirmed good guys Stirling Albion Albion Rovers Annan Stenhousemuir Cowdenbeath Very likely good guys Dunfermline Athletic Clyde Arbroath Queens Park Airdrieonians Most likely bad guys Berwick Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: Do you want me to dig the hole for you?Maybe you haven't noticed but since the bosman ruling players have the power. Aye, the power to accept a 9 month contract and make the wages last 12. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Well done Stenny 100% clarifying themselves as good guys tonight. Stated before but if all the good guys/ likely good guys vote as expected deal is completely dead. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42977922 Confirmed good guys Stirling Albion Albion Rovers Annan Stenhousemuir Cowdenbeath Very likely good guys Dunfermline Athletic Clyde Arbroath Queens Park Airdrieonians Most likely bad guys Berwick Rangers Wasn't it said a few pages back that Ross McArthur had confirmed that Dunfermline would never back the idea of colts sides? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Also, someone said earlier that 9/10 League Two chairmen were definitely against, with the tenth swithering (probably Berwick from their earlier public statement). Astonishingly, the Daily Ranger claim that 7 / 10 L2 chairmen were "in favour" appears to have been complete lies. Who would have believed such a reputable journal would have been gullible enough to print any old pish fed to them by McCart or whatever-he's-called from Rangers? The idea in its present form is completely dead. It would be naive to think it has gone away, however, or that the current opposition of 9/10 league chairman won't come under serious pressure if more money and a better presented proposal comes to the table. Up to fans not to be complacent about what appears to be a win, for now. The battle over this is far from over and there are enough wallopers out there to make the opposition significant in size and reach. It's important for the people united in opposition to it on this thread not only to keep coming up with better arguments against but also to suggest alternatives; most seem to think bringing back the reserve league is a good idea. It would be a start to find out how much it actually cost to run a reserve league. If the bigoted arsecheeks and others withdrew on the grounds of cost, what was that cost? If they are willing to chuck 300k. over two years at lower league chairmen, wouldn't that money be better spent offsetting the cost of bringing back the reserve leagues? If they are having to arrange bounce games to give fringe first teamers and age players proper game time, how much is that costing at present? Another season of the status quo for us uber-diddies in L2 doesn't mean it's all gone away; it's a season's grace to do better and more credible research than the back-of-a-fagpacket dimwittery from the Old Firm that's been faced down this time. I'm also interested in the threat that's been mentioned on this thread "accept this or face imminent reconstruction". What does that mean, exactly, and if anyone can shed any light, then what are the implications? It's all a bit vague. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Spoiler Yes agree the pressure needs to be kept up. Should be looking for a formal statement from Celtic/Rangers/SPFL saying that they recognize that the proposal is a non-runner, seems odd how quiet Doncaster has been in all this, if the SPFL want a vote it should be one of no confidence in Mr Doncaster so he can follow Reagan into the sunset. Have always said no club should have more than one place within the league system so if they want to sort out a reserve league then they can carry on but not at the cost of current league clubs places or anything that devalues competition in the proper leagues. The other thing going forward would be to try for a more effective non attendance at any Challenge Cup games iinvolving colt teams next season if they insist on their continued participation Edited February 7, 2018 by peternapper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Bazil85 said: Well done Stenny 100% clarifying themselves as good guys tonight. Stated before but if all the good guys/ likely good guys vote as expected deal is completely dead. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42977922 Confirmed good guys Stirling Albion Albion Rovers Annan Stenhousemuir Cowdenbeath Very likely good guys Dunfermline Athletic Clyde Arbroath Queens Park Airdrieonians Most likely bad guys Berwick Rangers Chewin' the Fat w**k Good Guy - YouTube 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, peternapper said: Reveal hidden contents Yes agree the pressure needs to be kept up. Should be looking for a formal statement from Celtic/Rangers/SPFL saying that they recognize that the proposal is a non-runner, seems odd how quiet Doncaster has been in all this, if the SPFL want a vote it should be one of no confidence in Mr Doncaster so he can follow Reagan into the sunset. Have always said no club should have more than one place within the league system so if they want to sort out a reserve league then they can carry on but not at the cost of current league clubs places or anything that devalues competition in the proper leagues. The other thing going forward would be to try for a more effective non attendance at any Challenge Cup games iinvolving colt teams next season if they insist on their continued participation That's one of the more interesting issues from this; to an outsider, it certainly appears as though Celtic and Rangers have drawn up a proposal, handed it over to the SPFL to send out like a secretarial service, then undertaken the discussions with individual clubs themselves. If, say, Aberdeen and Hearts had an issue they wanted to put forward, would they also be given free rein? It's easy to think this is an example of the big boys getting to do whatever they want, but I wonder if this is just the SPFL getting sick of the nagging and saying, "aye, go for it yourselves, I'm sure it'll work out well for you". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazil85 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 13 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: Chewin' the Fat w**k Good Guy - YouTube And that to me would be the most productive way to do the vote. Live on TV, over here if you’re a good guy over there in the sea if you’re a w**k. Haha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazil85 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Any fans of the other clubs that said they’d consult fans shine light on if that’s been done yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Bazil85 said: And that to me would be the most productive way to do the vote. Live on TV, over here if you’re a good guy over there in the sea if you’re a w**k. Haha You didn't answer my question yesterday but it's ok i'm sure McCart and mullholland are still going around every club to get their feedback,for the vote in the spring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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