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The Evening Express can reveal that clubs are considering the proposal to revive the old reserves set-up.

This would also end any immediate prospect of Celtic and Rangers’ Under-20s, or colt teams, joining League Two.

 

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/reserve-league-set-for-revival/

Good news if true.

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On ‎21‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 10:39, Bazil85 said:

yeah agree with that, what I would propose is all teams having a minimum number of homegrown youngsters on the park at any one time not the bench. If all teams were made to do that then it takes away the disadvantage. Will never happen though because Celtic competing playing in Europe is king on the list of SPFL priorities. 

 

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The Evening Express can reveal that clubs are considering the proposal to revive the old reserves set-up.

This would also end any immediate prospect of Celtic and Rangers’ Under-20s, or colt teams, joining League Two.

 
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/reserve-league-set-for-revival/
Good news if true.
The Express can reveal? That's been known since the end of last season. We haven't been running an under 19 team this season in the development league since most of the guys would have been 17/18 and so not guaranteed two years of under 19 football.
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2 hours ago, NorthernLights said:

Provided they retain the 'development loans' which allow players to similarly play for both u20 and their loan club, then I'd agree. Allows them to continue gaining first team experience and then applying it their own clubs.

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3 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-football/reserve-league-set-for-revival/
Good news if true.
The Express can reveal? That's been known since the end of last season. We haven't been running an under 19 team this season in the development league since most of the guys would have been 17/18 and so not guaranteed two years of under 19 football.

This - it's been known since early last year U20s development league (maximum of X over-agers) was becoming 'SPFL Trophy' reserve league (minimum of X U20s).

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What about a single colts side made up of the elite of Scottish colts that play, train and are based in a country that is accepting (or at least has them in there leagues) of colt teams. Take Spain as an example. Could we as a country create a squad of the elite colts in the country and join at the bottom of the Spanish leagues. Play, train and stay in the country, supported by the SFA. These players learn a great brand of football, are likely to play better players than what's on offer in Scotland and they would actually gain valuable experience both in football and culture. And Colts aren't in our league system. They would be improving and our football is protected.

(Is this even possible I have no idea)

Who pays the wages , The SFA. They would be paid a wage of a 10p mix up and a lolly pop.
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Seem to be finally realizing that the development league not the actual leagues have been the problem.  Hopefully the re-think includes the Colts removal from the Challenge Cup as well.
Certainly looks like a line has been drawn under it.
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On 01/03/2018 at 15:28, HibeeJibee said:

This - it's been known since early last year U20s development league (maximum of X over-agers) was becoming 'SPFL Trophy' reserve league (minimum of X U20s).

You need to remember that the Evening Express is a total riddy of a local newspaper. Most of its stories now are FoI responses to pish like "How often do the traffic lights on King Street fail?" and then producing an "exclusive" piece titled "Traffic lights on King Street failed once every three months the Evening Express can reveal today".

Anyway, for all the chat about how B teams are good because Spain, Germany and the Netherlands have them and they are good at football, from what I can gather Brazil, Argentina, Italy and France don't have B teams in their league setup* and they seem to be quite good at football as well.

*Happy to be corrected.

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1 hour ago, Loonytoons said:
On ‎02‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 11:47, peternapper said:
Seem to be finally realizing that the development league not the actual leagues have been the problem.  Hopefully the re-think includes the Colts removal from the Challenge Cup as well.

Certainly looks like a line has been drawn under it.

:thumsup2   Not sure how that appears sometimes,  anyway hopefully the Colt thing has been put to bed. Our manager again was in the paper last week saying he was glad that it looked more like a reserve league was going to be resurrected to provide options for players of various ages to gain meaningful game time.

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5 hours ago, RiG said:

from what I can gather Brazil, Argentina, Italy and France don't have B teams in their league setup and they seem to be quite good at football as well.

Italy don't.

France allow them to compete in the amateur levels.

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Italy don't.

France allow them to compete in the amateur levels.

Although what was called the Championnat amateur and is now the Championnat National 2 (despite being regionalised) has only a handful of truly amateur teams in it.
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  • 3 weeks later...
Reserve league football is back for next year so that probably puts to bed this colt idea
The Scotland national team can now look forward to another 20 years of mediocrity now that the youngsters won't have the experience of league 2 football.

Desiderari occasionem
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2 hours ago, edinabear said:

Reserve league football is back for next year so that probably puts to bed this colt idea

Good move (should never have been stopped) but not sure if it will stop the 'colts' pish given how determined some folk seem to be to have it

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On 3/24/2018 at 12:55, DA Baracus said:

 

Good move (should never have been stopped) but not sure if it will stop the 'colts' pish given how determined some folk seem to be to have it

I think the Colts idea seems dead in the water again given the radio silence from the Bigot brothers, SFA and SPFL. Communication isn't their strong point though lets be honest. It'll rear its ugly head again in months/ years time and yet again the fans of us 'wee teams' will need to come together to remind the Scottish football chiefs we aren't a two team nation. 

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Phil Vickery was asked on the R5 Football Show how bright England's future was after winning u17 and u20 World Cups. He felt that the 17's could do well, as they played great football; where the 20's may not, as they were more physically adept than skilful. In both cases, he felt their progression would depend entirely on if they got senior game time.

Reserve league will only work if it's less about results; who cares if club A win the reserve league if we see no grass roots improvement.

If we revert to type and play the bigger, older, more developed players, our ability to develop and progress grass roots will fail even more.

Cowdenbeath 20's are not winning many, but their team is made up of many players of 15, 16 & 17. The right thing IMHO.

Let's have a reserve league, but get the mentoring right from good pro's and play them equally with the developing youngsters and not get too hung up about winning.

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Yet another Chairperson completely disregarding fan opinion, what makes it even more disappointing is she's in charge of a club moving towards fan ownership. 'The main challenge would appear to be financial.' No Mrs Budge the main challenge is it isn't wanted by fans and fans are more important than financial obstacles. 

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2018/03/29/hearts-owner-targets-15-million-turnover-thanks-to-new-main-stand-reveals-potential-1-million-pitch-plan-talks-singing-section-foundation-of-hearts-takeover-and-colts-celtic-rangers/ 

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