Abandon Hampden say SPFL Chairman

[Malcolm Malcolm]

14 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

Weirdly, came across this:

Whiiiiiich I'd imagine, if it was brought in a bit at the ends, people would be happier with?
 

There's a few lengthy and depressing theories behind what happened to that stadium plan, which appears to have been somewhat better timed and better designed than what we got.

[SweeperDee]

There's a few lengthy and depressing theories behind what happened to that stadium plan, which appears to have been somewhat better timed and better designed than what we got.

Let's hear the stories!

[forameus]

1 hour ago, thisGRAEME said:

Weirdly, came across this:

Whiiiiiich I'd imagine, if it was brought in a bit at the ends, people would be happier with?
 

Never mind that, I want to know what Showbiz Shoot-out entails.

[realmadrid]

50 minutes ago, SweeperDee said:

 

 

Let's hear the stories!

 

Covered on this Queens Park site....They blame Rangers and the Thatcher government.

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden04.htm -To the point of development

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden05.htm - 1981 onward.

 

 

[Malcolm Malcolm]

47 minutes ago, SweeperDee said:

 

Let's hear the stories!

 

Basically it goes something like this.

It was proposed to hold 62,000 with a one piece continuous roof. The plan was apparently called off after the notorious Scottish Cup Final of 1980 when there were bulldozers parked outside the stadium ready to start demolition on the Monday after the game. The Conservatives at the Scottish Office were said to have been persuaded by Rangers directors not to waste money redeveloping Hampden when there was a perfectly good new all seater stadium at Ibrox and the contractors were paid off.

It's like all the P&B supervillians in a row.

[Malcolm Malcolm]

4 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

Covered on this Queens Park site....They blame Rangers and the Thatcher government.

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden04.htm -To the point of development

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden05.htm - 1981 onward.

 

 

Yeah, that's the one. You beat me by a minute.

[thisGRAEME]

4 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

Covered on this Queens Park site....They blame Rangers and the Thatcher government.

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden04.htm -To the point of development

http://www.qpfc.com/hampden/hampden05.htm - 1981 onward.

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Celtic were also involved in the next major development at Hampden in 1909, although this time it was in the destruction of the ground after a Scottish Cup Final replay against, you've guessed it, Rangers. Spectators had been anticipating extra time after the scores were level after ninety minutes, but when both teams left the pitch it became clear that was the end of the action for the day. Turnstiles, barriers and fences were all wrecked by a combination of vandalism and arson, and when firefighters appeared to extinguish the fire their hoses were slashed. 

In a rather bizarre settlement, the SFA paid for half of the £1,000 worth of damage, while the other £500 was to be split evenly between Celtic, Rangers and Queen's Park. Explain that if you can.

 

[jamamafegan]

Basically it goes something like this.
It was proposed to hold 62,000 with a one piece continuous roof. The plan was apparently called off after the notorious Scottish Cup Final of 1980 when there were bulldozers parked outside the stadium ready to start demolition on the Monday after the game. The Conservatives at the Scottish Office were said to have been persuaded by Rangers directors not to waste money redeveloping Hampden when there was a perfectly good new all seater stadium at Ibrox and the contractors were paid off.
It's like all the P&B supervillians in a row.

f**k me sideways. Why do Rangers just ruin everything?

[NathanQP]

If they extended the upper tear around the whole stadium it would look a lot better. Transport is fine, I don't know why people moan so much about it. I wouldn't care if we got tuffed out of hampden though in the future.

[HibeeJibee]

If people dislike views from the ends, 2nd tiers would be even further away?

Plus the North Stand is already hard-up against the street.

[topcat(The most tip top)]

If people dislike views from the ends, 2nd tiers would be even further away?

 

Plus the North Stand is already hard-up against the street.

 

The point of tiers is precisely that you can struck more people closer to the pitch and with more elevated viewpoints. The front row of the upper tier being further forward than the back row of the bottom tier

 

It's one of the reasons Murrayfield and Parkhead can get more people into a smaller footprint than Hampden.

 

The other problem is that the gradients simply aren't steep enough. So if you're near the back then you're not only further back than you would be at the back of a second tier but you're viewing the pitch from a terrible low angle.

 

Much of Hampden is still basically seats mounted onto the old terracing.

 

Most grounds in Scotland had this as a transitional phase after the Taylor Report (like the the old East Stand at Easter Road) hoping to eventually replace it with something better (like the new East Stand at Easter Road)

 

At Hampden it seems as if it's not supposed to be transitional

 

 

 

[RussellAnderson]

8 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

At Hampden it seems as if it's not supposed to be transitional

"This isn't a phase mommm!!" 

[Malcolm Malcolm]

14 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

Much of Hampden is still basically seats mounted onto the old terracing.

Most grounds in Scotland had this as a transitional phase after the Taylor Report (like the the old East Stand at Easter Road) hoping to eventually replace it with something better (like the new East Stand at Easter Road)

That's a very good point, actually

[Malcolm Malcolm]

3 hours ago, jamamafegan said:

 

f**k me sideways. Why do Rangers just ruin everything?

 

If it's true it's appalling but entirely characteristic.

The problem is that they don't understand why we don't think that they basically are Scottish football, but at the same time they have no regard for Scottish football and want to leave

[HibeeJibee]

2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

The point of tiers is precisely that you can struck more people closer to the pitch and with more elevated viewpoints. The front row of the upper tier being further forward than the back row of the bottom tier

It's one of the reasons Murrayfield and Parkhead can get more people into a smaller footprint than Hampden.

Maybe so but that's not the case with Hampden's South Stand: it barely overlaps and isn't that much steeper. If you extended that round the ends people would be even further away.

[RussellAnderson]

42 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Maybe so but that's not the case with Hampden's South Stand: it barely overlaps and isn't that much steeper. If you extended that round the ends people would be even further away.

It was probably done that way to be more in keeping with the rest of the stadium. 

[topcat(The most tip top)]

It was probably done that way to be more in keeping with the rest of the stadium. 

The space created by the overhang is actually taken up by the corporate glazed boxes as opposed to extra rows at the back of the bottom tier.

[They think its all over]

Def' New stadium and centre of excellence to try and push this countries national game where it should be.

With the complex having an educational centre for upcoming youth players to attend, and all budding youth players taken out of demoralising 'club' systems and coached by a Scottish coaching system for the national interests in the game and not for individual club gain. With youth players reaching a level of of excellence before being drafted to club system at an age suitable for them to deal with the pro stage.

And wait for it............... built in central Scotland. No not the central belt. Stirling/Perthshire. Unlike the Scottish Sport Centre at Inverclyde, which is closer to Ireland than most of Scotland!!!

[Malcolm Malcolm]

49 minutes ago, They think its all over said:

Def' New stadium and centre of excellence to try and push this countries national game where it should be.

With the complex having an educational centre for upcoming youth players to attend, and all budding youth players taken out of demoralising 'club' systems and coached by a Scottish coaching system for the national interests in the game and not for individual club gain. With youth players reaching a level of of excellence before being drafted to club system at an age suitable for them to deal with the pro stage.

And wait for it............... built in central Scotland. No not the central belt. Stirling/Perthshire. Unlike the Scottish Sport Centre at Inverclyde, which is closer to Ireland than most of Scotland!!!

'I'd like a blank cheque, please. That's right, sir. One we can write the amount on ourselves.'

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

100k capacity stadium in Auchterarder with a direct Monorail/vacuum tube link from every town in Scotland. An international airport, spaceport and a Bella Italia to also be built alongside the stadium.