Coventry Saint Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Terry_Tibbs said: CV already in the bin. Fixed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Maybe St Mirren knew they were talking without permission but rather than step in and have them ask, they wait until the deal is almost done then ring Sunderland dry for extra compo for not following the rules. The comments of the St Mirren chairman do seem like that is the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Or could it not simply be the case that Ross's agent is doing everything for him and then passing the info on to him if he's on holiday. Its not as if Sunderlands new owners don't know how football works so I'd be surprised if they were doing something this bluntly. Edited May 23, 2018 by Shodwall cat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, kanyewestbank said: Maybe,but a simple phone call to Gordon Scott would be basic courtesy This is modern day football at the end of the day. Basic courtesy doesn't come into it I'm afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Moonster Posted May 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, kanyewestbank said: Maybe,but a simple phone call to Gordon Scott would be basic courtesy It's funny, your board who appointed Ian Murray didn't deem it necessary to give a call of courtesy to our Chairman when you wanted Ian Murray. You spoke with him unofficially and once the deal was done the official approach was made. No tears from me, he'd have gone anyway, but it's funny that you're disgusted with such actions. Some might call it karma, eh @Div? 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellV1 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I suppose technically up until yesterday they didn’t own Sunderland and could talk to whoever they want? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young gun Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, kanyewestbank said: I will hang fire on this until the full story comes out,but if Jack Ross and his agent were negotiating with Sunderland without the common courtesy to inform Gordon Scott (as it would appear from Gordons comments) then i will be absolutely disgusted. Jack Ross is his agent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Moonster said: It's funny, your board who appointed Ian Murray didn't deem it necessary to give a call of courtesy to our Chairman when you wanted Ian Murray. You spoke with him unofficially and once the deal was done the official approach was made. No tears from me, he'd have gone anyway, but it's funny that you're disgusted with such actions. Some might call it karma, eh @Div? I think the six months that followed were karma enough, thank you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, kanyewestbank said: We did,i was having a quiet pint and overheard said phone call 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Managers and players talk to other clubs all the time, it’s a business at the end of the day. It’s only fans who remain loyal to clubs, managers and players come and go. I’ve got no issue with Jack Ross leaving for a bigger gig down south as he’s earned it. The man has done a magnificent job with Saints and I’ll always be grateful for the work he’s done. We move on and quickly appoint his successor, hopefully Robbie Neilsen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Glad Ross has gone. Just wish he had fecked off sooner. Before he gave Samson that disgrace of an enhanced contact. Ross's compensation of 50 grand should cover Samson's wages for the next 2 years. Or maybe the new Manager will use the money to pay the duff goalie off. Or Ross might purchase him for Sunderland Shambles -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Won't last six months at Sunderland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I'd hope not! Far too early for Goodwin. If it was anyone else with similar managerial career stats with a similar sized club nobody would be entertaining the suggestion. You mean like, erm Jack Ross? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Jim Goodwin for me. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Glad this has been sorted out, now we have the whole summer to sort out a replacement, look forward to the compensation (and possibly an extra whack not to report them for tapping up) and the money from the McGinn transfer. Combine that with the extra revenue from the top league with the club currently having first division budgets and we are looking pretty sweet. Bit of a shame Ross has gone, but that's just football. Not sure if he's timed the Sunderland option right, we will need to wait and see, but it's fair to say he won't be out of pocket no matter what happens. Funnily enough though, in the Ross chasing statistics, Sunderland seems to be more of a dodgy club than Dundee. Not a statement I'd expected to have written. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Some interesting quotes: Sky Sports... Spoiler Sunderland are paying St Mirren £50,000 in compensation for their manager, and are believed to have offered Ross five times what he is being paid in Scotland. Gordon Scott... Spoiler "been no contact from Sunderland". "Jack is on holiday. So unless there is some major skullduggery going on then it's nonsense." "To hold talks with Jack, we would have to grant permission, but we've had no contact from Sunderland at all." This should be fun. 50K is laughable you would looking at least 4 or 5 times that value and as he's under contract to us that is entirely reasonable, so I'm guessing Sky have probably asked Sunderland how much they are going to pay when they finally get round to asking us and they threw out a derisory figure. Of course, there could be something in Ross' contract that allows for him to move for nominal compensation if "a bigger club" comes in. Even if that is the case could you argue that a club languishing 3 levels below their top division be considered "a bigger club" than on that is in the top division in another country. While we all know the sensible answer is "yes, it's fucking Sunderland of course it's bigger", legally though that is a tough one to get past a judge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossC93 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 https://www.stmirren.com/news/club/club-news/1890-club-statement-3 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, RossC93 said: https://www.stmirren.com/news/club/club-news/1890-club-statement-3 I don't think they have any other choice, they need to play this by the book as it's looking like a clear case of tapping up. It all depends on the size of balls on Scott as to just how far this can be pushed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Why is Jack Ross so desperate to leave St Mirren? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Why is Jack Ross so desperate to leave St Mirren? He is a man that has never made any secret of his ambition. Desperate might be the correct word though once you realise Sunderland are in the mix. Sevcoesque shambles of a club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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