Ric Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, medals said: You are still At it, I quote you - "My main issue with Hemming is that he doesn't command his box, and we saw that in the game against Aberdeen." One incident in one game and you also called him a step down. You are being very selective there. For a start it wasn't "one incident", as I posted links to his performances for Killie where he failed to command his box when he joined us. He had a nightmare for them last season and had to be replaced. That's the reason I am concerned about him being #1. It's not some sort of unfair agenda against the lad. Is it his fault he is #1? No, of course not, it's Carson's for having a tantrum. Do I blame him for taking the opportunity, again, of course not. It is Robinson that's made the call, and it's his job on the line so I presume he must trust him, but that doesn't stop people having an opinion on what they see. Secondly, as for him being a step down, he is, you simply cannot argue the case. Part of that is because we have been very lucky with our keepers recently. Is he a better keeper than Hladky, Alnwick or Carson? If you think so, then that is a crazy take. The keeper we had before that was (iirc) Samson. Is he better than Samson? Perhaps, that's a different argument. The biggest thing for me is for Hemming to learn from his mistakes. Keepers have mistakes "baked into them", it's how they react that is important, and we won't really know that until the team experiences a tough period of results. Finally, when he's had a good game, I've said he's had a good game. Feel free to check my comments. Edited September 3, 2023 by Ric 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Coventry Saint said: Aberdeen was a moral victory. P&B is not the place for wit, humour or light hearted posts mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 This is the best start I can remember to a season in the top league yet pages upon pages of worry and angst. Robinson may go to Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen or Real Madrid but until it happens or we go on a terrible run and sack him then enjoy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhame Buddie Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Ric said: You are being very selective there. For a start it wasn't "one incident", as I posted links to his performances for Killie where he failed to command his box when he joined us. He had a nightmare for them last season and had to be replaced. That's the reason I am concerned about him being #1. It's not some sort of unfair agenda against the lad. Is it his fault he is #1? No, of course not, it's Carson's for having a tantrum. Do I blame him for taking the opportunity, again, of course not. It is Robinson that's made the call, and it's his job on the line so I presume he must trust him, but that doesn't stop people having an opinion on what they see. Secondly, as for him being a step down, he is, you simply cannot argue the case. Part of that is because we have been very lucky with our keepers recently. Is he a better keeper than Hladky, Alnwick or Carson? If you think so, then that is a crazy take. The keeper we had before that was (iirc) Samson. Is he better than Samson? Perhaps, that's a different argument. The biggest thing for me is for Hemming to learn from his mistakes. Keepers have mistakes "baked into them", it's how they react that is important, and we won't really know that until the team experiences a tough period of results. Finally, when he's had a good game, I've said he's had a good game. Feel free to check my comments. Have you read his partner’s posts on the Kilmarnock thread? Honest and open and entirely understandable. A young man away from his young family - no wonder his form dropped dramatically. With this in mind it was an “one off incident”. A fluke goal, just as unpredictable as the Snodgrass cross/shot last season. Zac is a good goalkeeper and highly thought of by our management and Middlesbrough’s management. He deserves our full support. We’ve been tremendously lucky with our goalkeepers in recent years. Hemming is the next in a great run. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Sorry, was looking in on the other champion contenders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 6 hours ago, boozyBJ said: Sorry, was looking in on the other champion contenders We're good thanks. You lads doing ok? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Doonhame Buddie said: Have you read his partner’s posts on the Kilmarnock thread? Honest and open and entirely understandable. A young man away from his young family - no wonder his form dropped dramatically. With this in mind it was an “one off incident”. A fluke goal, just as unpredictable as the Snodgrass cross/shot last season. Zac is a good goalkeeper and highly thought of by our management and Middlesbrough’s management. He deserves our full support. We’ve been tremendously lucky with our goalkeepers in recent years. Hemming is the next in a great run. You can make any excuse you want for it, but the facts are the facts, he was so bad with Kilmarnock last season he had to be dropped. Go back and watch his games. If he can suffer confidence issues, once, then he can suffer them again. We would be having the same discussion if we had brought an outfield player who had suffered the same fate. If people are sitting there thinking I am criticising him unfairly and will never recognise if he has a good game clearly never read my comments. I said the same for Curtis Main, who was an absolute embarrassment for us for months, months. Did he come good in the end? Yes, he did. Did I call him out when he was being dogshit? Yes, I did. Did I call him out for his excellent performances last season? Yes, yes I did. Do I want him to be a success? Of course I do. The biggest thing is how he reacts to his mistakes, because keepers who make none (just like any player who makes no mistakes) are as rare as hens teeth. Robinson is the person who makes the call, it's his job on the line, and considering his success with us last season he has earned the right to make those decisions. Personally I think he was blindsided by Carson's tantrum and limited by our budget, so he's had to lean into the Hemming as #1 out of circumstance rather than desire. Bottom line is that we all have opinions, but that's all they are. I don't get annoyed at people bigging up Hemming, because... people certainly have, yet people seem to get annoyed when I am less ebullient. The only arbiter here will be the end of the season, when we have a much better idea of how good (or bad) he'll be. Again, though, I obviously wish for a positive outcome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Not sure how you find the time to write these excruciatingly long posts - bore off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 8 hours ago, boozyBJ said: Sorry, was looking in on the other champion contenders Nerve wracking watching for well's results hoping they slip up against a diddy team and we stay top 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Well now that the transfer window is shut what from now till January? Our first priority as a fanbase is to pick our scapegoat which seems to be Hemmings, never understood how this helps but we've always had one. IMO selecting a keeper for this slot is a bold move. Generally I think we look competitive wrt the other diddy clubs and if we could find a magic combo up front we could be pushing for the best of the rest although I think currently Motherwell are looking faves for that title, I think one of the Tayside clubs will finish bottom. No gimmes for us in this division but we've got a good vibe within the squad (90+6 against Livi cancels out the 90+10 against the Dons) so Greenhill will be the venue for thrills & spills - so let's get behind the lads (Hemming excepted) It'll be interesting to see how County's windfall will be used ie whether it'll be extra money or a wee break for Uncle Roy in terms of subsidising them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Looks like SR isn't going to Hibs. Might still be in for the Aberdeen, Hearts or Rangers jobs though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Looks like SR isn't going to Hibs. Might still be in for the Aberdeen, Hearts or Rangers jobs though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempes Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 The deal for Montgomery was flagged up several days ago, by Ian Gordon’s dog walker. See the (Latest) New Hibs manager thread. Glad he wasn’t barking up the wrong tree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coventry Saint Posted September 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kempes said: The deal for Montgomery was flagged up several days ago, by Ian Gordon’s dog walker. See the (Latest) New Hibs manager thread. Glad he wasn’t barking up the wrong tree Dog walkers always have decent leads. Edited September 4, 2023 by Coventry Saint 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempes Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 As we worry about unwanted interest in our manager, spare a thought for Fleetwood Town and Hearts. They hired the other two candidates who were being ‘recommended’ to us by their media pals. Almost looks like the board actually knew what they were doing when they paid a transfer fee for Robbo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: Dog walkers always have decent leads. Ian has a dog named SCOUT. Until the weekend there they have been having a RUFF time in the league, but the win brought them some PAWS-ITIVITY. Those who thought they wanted SR were barking up the wrong tree Edited September 4, 2023 by medals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Good news about Hibs going with Montgomery. There's realistically no chance in a world of zoom that he's flying literally halfway around the world for a job he's not being offered or taking so think we can breathe easy. For now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Good news about Hibs going with Montgomery. There's realistically no chance in a world of zoom that he's flying literally halfway around the world for a job he's not being offered or taking so think we can breathe easy. For now. No chance Aberdeen will touch him, and I can't see Hearts fancying him either, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on. I reckon he'll see at least this season out with us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Coventry Saint said: No chance Aberdeen will touch him, and I can't see Hearts fancying him either, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on. I reckon he'll see at least this season out with us. Hearts you'd think will go the restructuring route before the binning option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I know zero about this bloke Montgomery. I give him eighteen months, max. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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