MacArab Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, locheedfcno1 said: Doon and stay doon As I said to your esteemed colleague KT earlier in the thread. Enjoy it while it lasts......... It will be all the sweeter for us, when our roles are reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Spittal and Robertson were from Queens Park. Stuart Armstrong came through at Inverness after Dyce Boys Club. GMS signed for united at age 21 from Airdrie. So you’ve brought through Gauld and who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The Funsters are brilliant amusement. I have a deep affection for their desperate attempts to belittle us over everything. Keep at it guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, MacArab said: It will be all the sweeter for us, when our roles are reversed. Hopeful fantasies thread for this pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Spittal and Robertson were from Queens Park. Stuart Armstrong came through at Inverness after Dyce Boys Club. GMS signed for united at age 21 from Airdrie. So you’ve brought through Gauld and who else? Sort of agree with this. Ian Cathro got a bit lucky off the back of this too, right place right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accent-Unknown Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Spittal and Robertson were from Queens Park. Stuart Armstrong came through at Inverness after Dyce Boys Club. GMS signed for united at age 21 from Airdrie. So you’ve brought through Gauld and who else? Yes because these players had absolutely no development while at United.None. None whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacArab Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, Accent-Unknown said: Yes because these players had absolutely no development while at United. None. None whatsoever. Absolutely; I would say that's the 6 years that Armstrong spent at United (starting as a youth) had probably more effect than 1 year at ICT. We took GMS from Airdire and turned him into a player (who loved a goal against the Dees) that ended up at Celtic, Robertson, from part time football, who was playing for Scotland within a year and ended up in the Premiership, Ciftci, who nobody had ever heard of before and sold him for 1.5m within a couple of years, Harry Souttar who ended up at Stoke.... (on top of Gauld which is the one you have given us). My point is that the development team at United thought they had found the formula to turn average footballers into superstars over a very short space of time, and this was found out as the new boys such as Telfer, Connolly, Spittal and Fraser were epic fails in this department, as too much pressure was put on them too young, and way before they were equipped to deal with it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Yes because these players had absolutely no development while at United.None. None whatsoever. Is that how it works is it? Sign a player from the lower leagues and then say you developed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accent-Unknown Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Is that how it works is it? Sign a player from the lower leagues and then say you developed them? Yes. That is definitely how it works. After all these players showed no improvement whatsoever from when they joined us to when they left.Not an iota of improvement.None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacArab Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, K.T said: Is that how it works is it? Sign a player from the lower leagues and then say you developed them? I would say that Dundee United went through a period of time where they were able to take players from lower leagues and help them to realise their full potential. Whether you wish to be pedantic or not and say that this does not count as developing them (simply because we didn't have them from when they were 5) is up to you. Main point (again) is that lots of very young and relatively unknown players joined United (or came through the youth set up) during that period, and went on to do very well. Hope that clears this up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 According to those at the club it was McNamara who gave the all clear for the sale of Armstrong and GMS. Thompson had said to Jackie that with the club heading for another top six finish and potential cup revenue that losing both players at the end of the season for less would be offset with that revenue. Jackie said he had ready made replacements for both players and said he’d be able to cope with their loss. His contract probably helped make that decision given his commission on player sales. As much as Thompson gets the blame for those two leaving when they did it was apparently McNamara who had the final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, stumigoo said: According to those at the club it was McNamara who gave the all clear for the sale of Armstrong and GMS. Thompson had said to Jackie that with the club heading for another top six finish and potential cup revenue that losing both players at the end of the season for less would be offset with that revenue. Jackie said he had ready made replacements for both players and said he’d be able to cope with their loss. His contract probably helped make that decision given his commission on player sales. As much as Thompson gets the blame for those two leaving when they did it was apparently McNamara who had the final say. That’s definitely the trouble with the type of contract McNamara was on. The motive for a big money sale of any player will always be an issue. Do you think Thompson just put too much faith in McNamara’s opinion or do you think Thompson was blinded by the size of the transfer fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 That’s definitely the trouble with the type of contract McNamara was on. The motive for a big money sale of any player will always be an issue. Do you think Thompson just put too much faith in McNamara’s opinion or do you think Thompson was blinded by the size of the transfer fee? Apparently it is fairly common practice down in England but that type of contract doesn’t sit right with me. Personally I think the problem was that Thompson gave McNamara the same freedom Levein had which backfired big time once the honeymoon period was over and Jackie had turned the place into a shambles behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Apparently it is fairly common practice down in England but that type of contract doesn’t sit right with me. Personally I think the problem was that Thompson gave McNamara the same freedom Levein had which backfired big time once the honeymoon period was over and Jackie had turned the place into a shambles behind the scenes. Did we ever find out what happened with Steve Campbell? Such a tumultuous time for United the late McNamara era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If we’re going to look back can we not be more upbeat. Remember when we beat Dundee 6-2. Six - two. SIX - TWO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accent-Unknown Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Daydream said: Did we ever find out what happened with Steve Campbell? Such a tumultuous time for United the late McNamara era. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/suspended-dundee-united-youth-coach-6793850 Quote "The ex-youth director was suspended by United in August pending an investigation amid talk of a fall-out with ex-boss Jackie McNamara. But now Record Sport understands United were looking into several complaints of bullying and use of racist language regarding youth team players." This is the record so take it with a pinch of salt but if this is true fucking hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Daydream said: Did we ever find out what happened with Steve Campbell? Such a tumultuous time for United the late McNamara era. One common story doing the rounds at the time was a fight at the youth digs and that of the players involved one was part of Darren Jackson's agency. Campbell took the side of other player (or players) and the three amigos all hounded Campbell as a result. Not sure the story is exactly as it sounds but it did all seem to hit a flat point with some kind of bust up in the youth accommodation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 . We took GMS from Airdire and turned him into a player (who loved a goal against the Dees) that ended up at Celtic, Gms had already spent a fair amount of time down in England beforehand had he not? His time at Airdrie was always a stepping stone to a bigger club, you didn't turn him into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: If we’re going to look back can we not be more upbeat. Remember when we beat Dundee 6-2. Six - two. SIX - TWO. Has there not been a more recent derby that had more significance for your club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Shadow Play said: Has there not been a more recent derby that had more significance for your club? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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