PB1994 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: So you'll take him back? Thank you. Only while we are in the Championship. Wouldn't have him back if we were still in the Premiership. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Worktheshaft said: Winning goal in the Scottish Cup final. Nuff said. Agree with that sentiment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) I see that Graham Rae has issued a stern warning on the website to a section of our supporters, plus it was reported on BBC Scotland news. I totally disagree with the flares and damage to the bus and I know that drink was involved but the boys have brought colour and humour at times to the stadium. It wasn't that long ago back in the nineties with home crowds of 1300 that all we could hear from our support was the sucking of pandrops fer fecks sake. We have moved on and I feel that in this instance Graham Rae should have brought the boys into the stadium suite, they are easily identified, for a hard chat and a reminder of their responsibility to the club and the possibility of a ban, words on a website again shows insular and remote management when a more hands on approach is needed. This should have been dealt with in house and not by washing our dirty linen in public for the press to tag our fans as hard core. I for one, and I'm sure there are many others, like what the boys and their boisterous singing and energy bring to the stadium. Rock On. Edited August 30, 2017 by SandyCromarty Addition -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I see we are on the Highland News front page this morning with the title 'Delinguent Fans Won't be Tolerated', All this because of Graham Rae's statement yesterday where he is quoted as ICT chairman. As far as I am aware Willie Finlayson was to remain as Chairman until the end of the month? In the article Donald Matheson boss of D & E Coaches states that fans ripped out an air conditioning unit from the roof of the coach and damaged some electrical wiring, that is serious and suggests that alcohol may have been used, Alcohol is banned and is illegal on football buses and the driver or the person who hired the bus could also be charged under Scottish law. None of the boys attending the match caused any criminal damage within the stadium, unlike some visiting fans at Caley stadium who have ripped out seats, nor were any of the boys charged by the police of an offence, they were ejected and given a stern warning by officers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Can't quite make out the text clearly enough but it seems to mention banning folk from games for a period of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 34 minutes ago, RiG said: Can't quite make out the text clearly enough but it seems to mention banning folk from games for a period of time. It does. Problem here is when we are desperately trying to attract new fans to the club this type of headline will put parents off attending games with their children. A very poor PR move by the club. As I said earlier this should have been dealt with in house and not by an official club website statement, which by it's nature from a quoted company is in the public domain and easily and freely quoted verbatim by the press. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 There was no need for the club to come out so strongly on this. Much like with the reaction to the porn tweet, they have made a mountain out of a molehill and attracted a host of unnecessary bad PR in the process. Sack the board. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I know the new chairman has said he wants the club to be more transparent, but they've gone too far the other way in the last few weeks. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasczak Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So the Chairman says that they won't tolerate potentially criminal behaviour from 'supporters', and is derided, whilst the very people causing embarrassment to the club are celebrated and in some cases implicitly condoned? I am almost speechless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Rasczak said: So the Chairman says that they won't tolerate potentially criminal behaviour from 'supporters', and is derided, whilst the very people causing embarrassment to the club are celebrated and in some cases implicitly condoned? I am almost speechless. ^^^ Graham Rae -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Banning orders incoming it seems...http://ictfc.com/news/club-news/1987-supporters-behaviour-at-brechin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Why did they have to put the word supporters in inverted commas? Those lads are clearly supporters of the club and were there supporting their team. Regardless of what they did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 They also seem to be getting banned for something that didn't even happen in the ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 It's not mentioned in the statement but I think a lot of the outcry with the buses is that it's the second time in a few months that D&E have sent a bill to the travel club. Last time some clown tried to get into the box for the emergency hammer (quite expensive to replace and fix I'd imagine). Seemingly though D&E have now banned the young team altogether. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Rasczak said: So the Chairman says that they won't tolerate potentially criminal behaviour from 'supporters', and is derided, whilst the very people causing embarrassment to the club are celebrated and in some cases implicitly condoned? I am almost speechless. Nonsense, nobody on here has condoned what happened on the buses and as I stated earlier there was no criminal damage/behaviour within Glebe Street. Neither has anybody condoned the smoke flares, which I can confirm, because I checked on the way out, did not damage any seating What I have said is that the boys bring colour and energy to what used to be a lifeless stadium. My personal complaint is in the mishandling of the situation by issuing an official statement, instead of handling the situation in house, which was obviously going to be picked up by the press and front page headlined in a local paper which will only serve to drive potential supporters away. Interesting to note that the latest statement is issued and signed by The Board of Directors and not by The Chairman, take out of that what you will. As far as I am aware Graham Rae assumes the post of Chairman on the 1st of September as was already stated by the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) And now the club's official statement regarding the incidents at Glebe Street has been reported on the STV sports news, six days after the game, feckin brilliant and now it's news all over the STV coverage area, well done Graham Rae. Parents watching that will now be queueing up with their children for our next home game? Great marketing. Edited August 31, 2017 by SandyCromarty Addition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasczak Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: as I stated earlier there was no criminal damage/behaviour within Glebe Street. They were in possession of a flare, smoke bomb or firework whilst in a football ground, a criminal offence under The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985. If they were under 18 then it is an offence under The Fireworks Regulations Act 2004 for them to be in possession anywhere in public. Just because they were not charged does not mean it is not criminal behaviour. 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: As far as I am aware Graham Rae assumes the post of Chairman on the 1st of September as was already stated by the club. Graham Rae has been Chairman since Willie Finlayson stood down nearly 2 weeks ago. All announced by the club on their website As you are so clearly completely incorrect regarding these points, where does this leave any of the rest of your arguments? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rasczak said: They were in possession of a flare, smoke bomb or firework whilst in a football ground, a criminal offence under The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985. If they were under 18 then it is an offence under The Fireworks Regulations Act 2004 for them to be in possession anywhere in public. Just because they were not charged does not mean it is not criminal behaviour. Graham Rae has been Chairman since Willie Finlayson stood down nearly 2 weeks ago. All announced by the club on their website As you are so clearly completely incorrect regarding these points, where does this leave any of the rest of your arguments? Aye, they made an arse of themselves by taking in a Smoke Bomb, as has been said everybody has said they are in the wrong with that, but banning them? FFS get a grip. They do bring a lot of positive things to games and they are just being kids. Nobody got hurt and nothing got damaged (in the ground) so give them a slap on the wrist and let it go. They've blown this whole thing out of proportion and it's bringing yet more, unneeded, bad press our way. We need to be getting as many people through the door as possible. Even more people who want to create a decent atmosphere. By the sounds of it heavy handed stewarding/policing is as much to blame as the young team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Sacramento Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Dummy spat, toys everywhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasczak Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, PB1994 said: Aye, they made an arse of themselves by taking in a Smoke Bomb, as has been said everybody has said they are in the wrong with that, but banning them? FFS get a grip. They didn't make an arse of them themselves, they committed at least 1 if not 2 criminal offences, and it is not the first time it has happened. The slaps on the wrist have long been given and ignored, so now is the time for proper action. They have only themselves to blame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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