Hillonearth Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said: What would be interesting to know is the average age of the committees of the East clubs that moved (and Dunipace) against the average age of the committees of those that refused to move. Did Blackburn have a committee that's significantly younger than the likes of Armadale for example? Were those who grew up on Junior crowds in the double / low triple figure era or who were new to the clubs but who could see the limited options available in the Junior leagues more open to change than those who have been involved since the days of the old King? I suspect the ones who have been most resistant to change are the ones that are effectively kept going by a handful of older guys. It's a fact of life that people become more conservative (with a small "c") as they get older, and if you've got that demographic completely in charge the pace of change will be glacial at best and non-existent at worst. Not a dig at anyone - I know for sure maybe ten years ago my club was being largely run by guys who'd been there forever and wouldn't have been at all receptive to anything as radical as moving from the Juniors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Found the lawyer taking up the SJFA case 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I imagine one of the first questions that would be asked if they tried taking legal action would be “Why didn’t you take action against the East region clubs when they left?” And at that point the case is fucked. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer1969 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said: Delicious salty salty tears from the "grade" dinosaurs. Keep them coming. Send them a mug. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 More likely to stop the new League setting up and poaching (?) clubs.Poaching clubs? Who has done that? I didn't realise the LL had contacted clubs directly to ask if they wanted to join, I thought they made an announcement and left it up to clubs to put their interest out there.I'm not sure you can stop a new league being started.....did they do that for the LL being started? Did they do anything in the east or when the HL started?The sjfa appear doomed to perpetual mishandling of this situation and just cant seem to admit they missed an open goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Im going to take annual leave if this goes to court, cant wait to watch that from the gallery. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Ross. said: I imagine one of the first questions that would be asked if they tried taking legal action would be “Why didn’t you take action against the East region clubs when they left?” And at that point the case is fucked. I vaguely remember some claim from that direction that clubs could be forced to serve out a notice period before being allowed to leave - a year or whatever. Obviously the clubs concerned collectively said "Aye...nae bother..." and left anyway with no repercussions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Hillonearth said: I vaguely remember some claim from that direction that clubs could be forced to serve out a notice period before being allowed to leave - a year or whatever. Obviously the clubs concerned collectively said "Aye...nae bother..." and left anyway with no repercussions. And how would they enforce it? If there was such a thing as a notice period, the clubs affected could just say: "aye, we'll let our first team play EOS and field a team of kids in the ERJFA". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: I vaguely remember some claim from that direction that clubs could be forced to serve out a notice period before being allowed to leave - a year or whatever. Obviously the clubs concerned collectively said "Aye...nae bother..." and left anyway with no repercussions. The years notice rule relates to clubs changing Regions eg Montrose Roselea. There is nothing the SJFA can do to prevent clubs from resigning from membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ross. said: I imagine one of the first questions that would be asked if they tried taking legal action would be “Why didn’t you take action against the East region clubs when they left?” And at that point the case is fucked. I don't think it will be against clubs. I think it will be against the new League they are talking about. I also don't think anything will happen legally like they say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Doonhamer1969 said: Aye ,fair point. Just looking up towns diddier than Stranraer with league teams........ Quite a few. Dingwall 5,491 Cove 7,157 Brechin 7,199 Annan 9,000 approx Stenhousemuir 10,190 Methil 10,800 (Yes,yes I know Larbert is contiguous with Stenhousemuir and Methil part of Levenmouth) From way up in the Highlands, Uncle Bob has now joined in the "population game" : Elgin (SPFL) 23,128 Fort William (HFL) 10,459 Thurso (NCL) 7,930 All taken from the official 2011 census. Good fun this !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, G4Mac said: Poaching clubs? Who has done that? I didn't realise the LL had contacted clubs directly to ask if they wanted to join, I thought they made an announcement and left it up to clubs to put their interest out there. I'm not sure you can stop a new league being started.....did they do that for the LL being started? Did they do anything in the east or when the HL started? The sjfa appear doomed to perpetual mishandling of this situation and just cant seem to admit they missed an open goal. I think this may be their only course. I think it is just a threat and won't mount to anything. I'm doing a lot of "thinking" this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, theesel1994 said: I don't think it will be against clubs. I think it will be against the new League they are talking about. I also don't think anything will happen legally like they say. I'm sure clubs will be thrilled at the prospect of the WRJFA trying to stop the new league a lot of them want to join, and further add to delays. Not that it will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesel1994 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, Burnie_man said: I'm sure clubs will be thrilled at the prospect of the WRJFA trying to stop the new league a lot of them want to join, and further add to delays. Not that it will happen. It won't happen and I think that email may just have made the decision a little easier for some clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: The years notice rule relates to clubs changing Regions eg Montrose Roselea. There is nothing the SJFA can do to prevent clubs from resigning from membership. Ah, that's what it was right enough...must have conflated the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: I don't think it will be against clubs. I think it will be against the new League they are talking about. I also don't think anything will happen legally like they say. Same concept really, though I’m sure legally someone could earn a bit of money arguing otherwise. Definitely comes across as a death rattle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beenzon-Toste Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The years notice rule relates to clubs changing Regions eg Montrose Roselea. There is nothing the SJFA can do to prevent clubs from resigning from membership."Any club intending to resign from a Region must give 12 months notice to that Region and the Scottish Junior FA."Taken directly from the freely available SJFA Constitution 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: I don't think it will be against clubs. I think it will be against the new League they are talking about. I also don't think anything will happen legally like they say. It's ultimately an empty threat...it's the equivalent of a local pub everyone's drunk in for years because there's no alternative attempting to stop a new one opening along the road because they know everyone will start drinking there as the beer will be cheaper and the bogs don't smell of piss. Edited February 29, 2020 by Hillonearth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Ah, that's what it was right enough...must have conflated the two. I think big tam tried to suggest they had to give a years notice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: I think big tam tried to suggest they had to give a years notice Would there be anything to stop a club playing their under 19’s for a season while the first team transfers to the WOSL? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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