cmontheloknow Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: 7 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Have the regulations changed much since Tinto had people under its enclosure, risking life and limb? Safe standing means addition of crush barriers to large covered enclosures as far as I know, clear delineation of fire exits, clearly defined capacity and lighting within the enclosure. Few at junior level have these. While some of these are defined in club licensing manual - I may have made some of them up! The new stand at Galabank shows what newbuilds need to be like (afaik): needs to be crush barriers over a certain size but it doesnt need to be as big as that. Enclosures like Beith/Cumnock etc perfectly acceptable. I'm sure Beith's fine as it's so narrow and Cumnock from memory's not especially steep. A few others would have some work to do though I think. Edited June 2, 2018 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said: Have the regulations changed much since Tinto had people under its enclosure, risking life and limb? Safe standing means addition of crush barriers to large covered enclosures as far as I know, clear delineation of fire exits, clearly defined capacity and lighting within the enclosure. Few at junior level have these. While some of these are defined in club licensing manual - I may have made some of them up! The new stand at Galabank shows what newbuilds need to be like (afaik): Clachnacuddin's newish covered terracing is about 3 times as deep as that with no barriers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 although most grounds are perfectly safe in daylight it will be a diferent story in darkness especialy more remote grounds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 although most grounds are perfectly safe in daylight it will be a diferent story in darkness especialy more remote grounds Its not expensive to put strip lighting in a stand, thats pure TJ scaremongering nonsense. Thats right up with £100k toilets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, marconi said: although most grounds are perfectly safe in daylight it will be a diferent story in darkness especialy more remote grounds How does remoteness affect lighting? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, marconi said: although most grounds are perfectly safe in daylight it will be a diferent story in darkness... That's kind of what having floodlights is for. If teams have those and have a small ground with relatively limited cover as is the case with most junior grounds there usually won't be all that much to do beyond that on the lighting angle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Top drama in the juniors in the last week. Absolutely tremendous stuff. Will miss it when it's gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) I think there are a few different sides to ground standard - matches that require a safety certificate, official capacity of any enclosures, level of licence. Obviously a run of the mill EoS or LL match is not going to require a safety certificate but a big cup tie might. I think where there could be issues is if a big crowd was anticipated and the local issuers of the safety certificate were unhappy about the safety of a stand. Hopefully the Kilsyth guys on here can correct me, but their lovely old shed was reduced to 500 was it not, on safety grounds? Is that still the case? The Clach cover... might have a reduced capacity from what is expected were they to host a big cup tie - it would be down to the safety certificate issuer to decide that. Edited June 2, 2018 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Khufu2 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, kenny131 said: We awe know it's you Mr Norwich ffs how many times do you need banned Another delusional fool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Khufu2 said: Another delusional fool. This thread seems to be full of them... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, cmontheloknow said: Have the regulations changed much since Tinto had people under its enclosure, risking life and limb? Safe standing means addition of crush barriers to large covered enclosures as far as I know, clear delineation of fire exits, clearly defined capacity and lighting within the enclosure. Few at junior level have these. While some of these are defined in club licensing manual - I may have made some of them up! The new stand at Galabank shows what newbuilds need to be like (afaik): I thought LTHV were getting a licence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khufu2 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: This thread seems to be full of them... I wonder how many at Cumnock were wishing Edusport Academy, BSC Glasgow, Cumbernauld Colts, Civil Service Strollers or Edin Uni or Stirling Uni had been their visitors today. What a load of mince they're expected to aspire to. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Khufu2 said: I thought LTHV were getting a licence. Their stand is not really relevant here with 100 capacity! I am referring to bigger stands which are built with Bronze in mind. Edited June 2, 2018 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter's Nutmeg Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Khufu2 said: I wonder how many at Cumnock were wishing Edusport Academy, BSC Glasgow, Cumbernauld Colts, Civil Service Strollers or Edin Uni or Stirling Uni had been their visitors today. What a load of mince they're expected to aspire to. All teams who jumped at an opportunity when your glorious leader scoffed at the idea. The very same leader who is now desperately trying to negotiate his way back in. Nobody is asking you to like the above teams, but you can’t blame them for joining something that nobody else wanted to at the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Baxter's Nutmeg said: All teams who jumped at an opportunity when your glorious leader scoffed at the idea. The very same leader who is now desperately trying to negotiate his way back in. Nobody is asking you to like the above teams, but you can’t blame them for joining something that nobody else wanted to at the time. Wouldn't even say those clubs jumped at it. Stirling University were the only club in the LL from the start. Rest took a year(s) to get in. Almost as if they knew it was an option, investigated the pros/cons, took action and got on with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Shanner said: Top drama in the juniors in the last week. Absolutely tremendous stuff. Will miss it when it's gone. There will still be the same football played in the pyramid and there will still be drama... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Marten said: There will still be the same football played in the pyramid and there will still be drama... Cheers mate, didn't know that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Shanner said: Top drama in the juniors in the last week. Absolutely tremendous stuff. Will miss it when it's gone. I must have dreamt about the final matchday drama in the LL and EoS then... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginaro said: I must have dreamt about the final matchday drama in the LL and EoS then... You must also have dreamt that I made reference to either of those things. Stay off the cheese would be my advice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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