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8 minutes ago, jupe1407 said:

From the BBC feed. 

 

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Unless the Architect insisted upon a specified brand of cladding, they (Omnis) would have been asked to provide prices for the types of cladding within specification that they were proposing to use.

Main Contractor would then consult Architect to ensure the chosen cladding conformed to the regs.

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May has just been bundled into her car as the crowd was surging at her and she is promising "millions" to help out.Oh look the tories are in the do do and a magic money tree just appeared

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21 minutes ago, Al666 said:

And they're still trying to sort out the complete clusterfuck Labour made of the country while they were in charge!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11541290/Ed-Balls-Labour-note-saying-money-had-run-out-was-a-joke.html

Fucking hell. Imagine being so blinkered that you're still a Tory fan boy after all that's gone on.

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I've seen a few people saying that there will be riots in London soon. There are hundreds of protesters outside a church that the Prime Minister is attending and obviously the scenes at Kensington Town Hall. I hope there aren't riots as it would detract from the investigation and the operations to make the building safe. Obviously I'm not there but it seems like the atmosphere is building and building.

 

I can see the government collapsing because of this. I think there's a real crisis in the response to this, a crisis of what to do, of how to take responsibility, of competence.

 

ETA - A lot of people are also making big assumptions about what happened. I've seen contractors quoted as saying that the idea that cladding was changed to flammable for £5k is unrealistic and not how these projects are done. Others saying that the contractors doing this work were slipshod and could cut corners.

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37 minutes ago, Dee Man said:

A couple of scuffles outside the town hall there. Guaranteed there will be groups of protestors on there way from all over the country with no plans of having a peaceful protest. 

Friday night's alright for fighting.

I predict that large groups of protesters will soon be venting their rage at currys windows and will be liberating high ticket price electrical items to show how angry they are.

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There are also conspiracy theories doing the rounds - that the government has refused to release the numbers of dead to prevent riots and that there is a d-notice in place to prevent the publication of these figures.

This isn't true - https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/no-there-isnt-a-d-notice-banning-the-media-from-reporting?utm_term=.daKRVLMKe#.sjYrYoREy

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21 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

May has just been bundled into her car as the crowd was surging at her and she is promising "millions" to help out.Oh look the tories are in the do do and a magic money tree just appeared

Licka paint here, licka paint there. They could be back in by Wednesday.

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33 minutes ago, jupe1407 said:

From the BBC feed. 

 

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Not the best way to report things from the BBC. It's not like the company were offered a choice of materials and said "you know what, give us the stuff that burn easiest".

There will be riots in London tonight. The council's response has been woeful but its gone beyond being about the fire itself. It's now a cause that every person with their own agenda can attach themselves to. The scenes from the protest outside the council offices were troubling. BBC guy on the scene rather reasonably asks one of the protesters what they want to achieve from their demonstration and she goes tonto at him. The guy who originally organised the demonstration tries to read out the council's statement and is heckled because half the crowd don't know who he is and assume he's from the council. One nutter insisting on telling the camera that Islam isnt the issue here, despite absolutely nobody suggesting that Islam was an issue here.

Everybody with any kind of grievance against any kind of local or national government authority is going to attach themselves to the protest that's happening this afternoon/evening.

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Apparently the Socialist Worker Party have showed up at the protests.

After a nuclear holocaust the only things left will be cockroaches and some arsepiece selling the Socialist Worker. Difficult to tell the difference really.

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Probably been mentioned before, but who the f**k cares if May "engaged" with locals? What the front line services needed immediately was the question she should have been asking rather than a PR bonding with the natives stunt for the cameras. 

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12 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Probably been mentioned before, but who the f**k cares if May "engaged" with locals? What the front line services needed immediately was the question she should have been asking rather than a PR bonding with the natives stunt for the cameras. 

I expect the same people complaining would have been ridiculing such a PR stunt. 

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A couple of scuffles outside the town hall there. Guaranteed there will be groups of protestors on there way from all over the country with no plans of having a peaceful protest. 
Friday night's alright for fighting.


Few Socialist Worker placards on show earlier.
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2 hours ago, H Wragg said:

 
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital

Meanwhile the Daily Mail have identified and posted pictures of the poor guy who seemingly had the faulty fridge.

Typical vindictive approach from the right-wing tabloids. Nothing to do with the Tories' 'campaign against safety legislation' or saving £2 per panel so that flammable panels were fitted instead of inflammable.

Am thinking this could break May.

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31 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Apparently the Socialist Worker Party have showed up at the protests.

After a nuclear holocaust the only things left will be cockroaches and some arsepiece selling the Socialist Worker. Difficult to tell the difference really.

 

Cockroaches could learn a thing or two about insidiousness from the SWP.

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57 minutes ago, blanco said:

I predict that large groups of protesters will soon be venting their rage at currys windows and will be liberating high ticket price electrical items to show how angry they are.

They wont have any houses to take them to.

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