pandarilla Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Pish. Keeper got the ball all day long. I think the penalty claim was for the two defenders challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: Really? Foy emphasised the term 'intentionally played the ball'. So if a keeper punches it off a defender that would not be offside? (That's exactly what happened to ayr at the weekend and the ref told our gaffer that it was correctly offside due to that rule). I actually think milner did play the ball (rather than it being accidental) so it doesn't matter anyway. But I think the ref here might argue that's why they disallowed it. The ball had already been actively played by the keeper, so the last active touch (before Milner) was not by an attacker. I'm not sure how Sane can then be offside from Milner's touch regardless of whether he meant it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 If that’s what Foy said, then he is talking bollox. That would only apply if the ball had already been played in a forward direction by an attacking player. The direction the ball goes in is irrelevant to the offside rule. Don't know about the "accidental touch" stuff, but I'm certain of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie_93 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Yellow for Van Dijk for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 How is that a foul (and YC) against Van Dijk? This ref is making it up as he goes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 VVD in the semi finals of the CL makes me think I can still make it as a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, resk said: The direction the ball goes in is irrelevant to the offside rule. Don't know about the "accidental touch" stuff, but I'm certain of that. The direction is relevant - a player can only be offside if the ball is played forward. But it’s not relevant for this. Unless there was an offside when the ball initially came forward, the goal should have stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The ball had already been actively played by the keeper, so the last active touch (before Milner) was not by an attacker. I'm not sure how Sane can then be offside from Milner's touch regardless of whether he meant it or not. Is that the only instance where it counts (a deflection from a through ball)?I've got no idea, I was surprised when that was mentioned as a thing at the weekend. So in both cases it's just a linesman error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, resk said: The direction the ball goes in is irrelevant to the offside rule. Don't know about the "accidental touch" stuff, but I'm certain of that. That's not correct. A player can't be offside tpif the ball is played backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 £75 million for VVD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The direction is relevant - a player can only be offside if the ball is played forward. But it’s not relevant for this. Unless there was an offside when the ball initially came forward, the goal should have stood. No, it's the positions of the players relative to each other that is relevant. The direction the ball travels in, is irrelevant. Ie. if player A cuts the ball back, then player B runs back from a position ahead of player A to collect the ball, player B is offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I’m really struggling to understand how there is any debate around this, Sane can’t have been offside as he was onside when De Bruyne played the ball up to him in the first place. That was the last time a Man City player touched the ball iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: Is that the only instance where it counts (a deflection from a through ball)? I've got no idea, I was surprised when that was mentioned as a thing at the weekend. So in both cases it's just a linesman error. That it was an accidental touch by Milner is irrelevant here. That only applies if the ball is deflected into the path of an attacker who was in an offside position when the ball was initially played forward by his teammate. Defining “accidental”, however, is a minefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Guessing most people are now watching Roma v Barcelona . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 What an odious little shitehawk Sterling is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Is that the only instance where it counts (a deflection from a through ball)? I've got no idea, I was surprised when that was mentioned as a thing at the weekend. So in both cases it's just a linesman error. Replace the punch by the Karius with a header from Lovren. When the ball comes off Milner, there's no way that would be considered offside. I'm not sure why a deliberate punch by Karius would be any different. FWIW, I think the ref/linesman initially reckoned the ball came off the City player rather than Milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Really? Foy emphasised the term 'intentionally played the ball'. So if a keeper punches it off a defender that would not be offside? (That's exactly what happened to ayr at the weekend and the ref told our gaffer that it was correctly offside due to that rule). I actually think milner did play the ball (rather than it being accidental) so it doesn't matter anyway. But I think the ref here might argue that's why they disallowed it. Well that has to be new. I ref’d (amateur level) for many years, and there was no deliberate or accidental, as that would be ridiculously difficult to adjudicate. For example, a forward stands on the opposition 18 yard line. A defender, 10 yards further up the park, rattles the ball off another defenders head who is 10 yards ahead of him. The ball rebounds to the forward who is standing on the 18 yard line. He rattles it into the net. According to Foy, that should be offside. I reckon that is utter bollox, and it’s a perfectly good goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: Replace the punch by the Karius with a header from Lovren. When the ball comes off Milner, there's no way that would be considered offside. I'm not sure why a deliberate punch by Karius would be any different. FWIW, I think the ref/linesman initially reckoned the ball came off the City player rather than Milner. Absolutely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: £75 million for VVD! He's pretty good to be fair. If otamendi is 40m or whatever he was then 75 for van dijk is a fucking bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Some scenes in the Liverpool end at that Salah goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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