Ira Gaines Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 There's radio station giveaways for every single major festival when tickets just come out. Reading sells out every year yet they do them when tickets come out. It's the giveaways nearer the time that give you a better idea. Like the Kendrick Lamar one where they said 3 pairs of tickets were available and they ended up handing out over a thousand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 That lineup is absolutely laughable. Doubt I'll bother this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0rtonfc Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 That lineup is heavy BOUFFIN! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0rtonfc Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Principal Flutie said: Not that laughable now. Fastest selling arena tour in years. Probably the least laughable of the three. Stormzy as a headliner... really hard to judge because he's not done a sizeable tour yet. He IS a big name though so I can kinda buy it, but he's probably the riskiest of the three. Hence why they put Gerry Cinnamon before him. He'll punt tickets if Stormzy can't. Why do you keep defending this shocking lineup, it's pish mate! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I'm defending it because I realise I'm beginning to get left behind a bit. We've got two acts at the top end who have sold out arena tours in less than an hour. In what way are they poor bookings? We've got two subs who are arena bands, and all of the acts third are also arena playing acts, and another sub who's probably the hottest ticket in Glasgow. There's absolutely nothing to defend here. This will sell tickets and that's the entire fucking point. There's plenty of festivals for us to go to if we don't like this. Anyone thinking this lineup is the demise of TRNSMT is just unable to pull their head from their own arse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0rtonfc Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: I'm defending it because I realise I'm beginning to get left behind a bit. We've got two acts at the top end who have sold out arena tours in less than an hour. In what way are they poor bookings? We've got two subs who are arena bands, and all of the acts third are also arena playing acts, and another sub who's probably the hottest ticket in Glasgow. There's absolutely nothing to defend here. This will sell tickets and that's the entire fucking point. There's plenty of festivals for us to go to if we don't like this. Anyone thinking this lineup is the demise of TRNSMT is just unable to pull their head from their own arse. It's a shambles, acts who played last year playing again only moved up the ladder, very lazy! As someone mentioned before, it's more or less turned into that T4 Beach thing or whatever it was called! It'll be Electric Fields for me, unless they pull out a shiter line up like this one. Edited February 19, 2019 by M0rtonfc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Once again, festivals used to book indie and rock acts because they were the ones who dominated the charts and loads of them were huge acts. That doesn't happen anymore. It's no surprise to see most of the indie acts are either shite, 10 years old, or at the bottom of the bill. So the whole "T4 Beach" comparison is bullshit. Because that was at a time when pop and indie were at the very least on a par on popularity and that isn't even close to being the case anymore. You could afford to have a festival of something different to that because it could sell. That's what people like you simply don't get. The job of the festival is to sell tickets. It's a business. If they put on what YOU wanted, it'd be dead within two years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 There is no evidence whatsoever that these C-list 'arena bands', when lumped together as part of a broader festival package, are going to generate significant ticket sales at all. If fans want to watch Gerry Cinammon then they can just wait for one of his own 17 million gigs every year; there is no reason for them to pay three times as much to get in return some completely unrelated acts playing on the same day of this shan festival. Which is why the lineup has already gone down like a stinking turd on social media and why Groupon et al. will be trying to shovel thousands of unsold tickets by May at the earliest. Your continued and tedious attempts to brand objective criticisms of piss-poor scheduling as subjective, old man yelling at a cloud whining about the youth of today is fooling absolutely nobody. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Oh and given that Geoff Ellis and his shan company have a proven track record of driving their music festivals into a wall, the idea that they are soundly following the money rather than just 'making a monumental arse of it yet again' doesn't stack up with the evidence so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The line up is what Brexit looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I'm fairly sure the year Radiohead headlined they were the day that sold by far the fewest tickets and the Queen gig last year was selling tickets at half price. Shite line up though and I usually look for any excuse to go to Glasgow Green and pay 8 quid for a vodka as well but it looks like Riverside Festival is my only Scottish festival this year unless I can snag a ticket for some of the sold out Bandstand gigs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamJags Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, virginton said: There is no evidence whatsoever that these C-list 'arena bands', when lumped together as part of a broader festival package, are going to generate significant ticket sales at all. If fans want to watch Gerry Cinammon then they can just wait for one of his own 17 million gigs every year; there is no reason for them to pay three times as much to get in return some completely unrelated acts playing on the same day of this shan festival. Which is why the lineup has already gone down like a stinking turd on social media and why Groupon et al. will be trying to shovel thousands of unsold tickets by May at the earliest. Agreed. I have never seen such universal derision on social media of a Scottish festival (perhaps any festival) before. I don't buy into the argument that people will consistently pay high prices to see bands who play in Glasgow/Edinburgh three times a year. Especially not on a festival bill. Stormzy is the only act who hasn't played in Glasgow in the last 18 months and is probably the only one that justifies the headline slot (even if it is a bit of a risk, the guy is headlining Glastonbury). The Catfish day might sell well since it's the only one that has been relatively well curated, and the George Ezra/Jess Glynne day appeals to those that are far too young to attend festivals. Snow Patrol didn't sell out the Hydro a couple of weeks ago, so I can't see them pulling in the punters to make up the difference. The gender divide is also laughable. Regardless of opinion on this, the fact that Ellis has come out and said that there are more female acts on the lineup this year when there are actually less shows exactly how clueless he is. A number of Scottish music outlets were contacted numerous times being asked to promote the festival and when they called DF out on the gender divide, they didn't respond and stopped asking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I think he's probably talking about percentage of female acts, but it's still a fair point. And especially if they're willing to book pop acts higher up the bill now. It's not like there's a lack of female fronted bands and female artists out there. Florence and the Machine turned it down to do Summer Sessions, but even that wouldn't have made up the difference much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 https://www.nme.com/news/music/trnsmt-festival-boss-responds-to-criticism-of-all-male-headliners-for-2019-2449598 Ok, fair enough, it might not be possible to book female headliners due to scheduling commitments at that time of the year. But having three female acts on the main stage across a whole weekend? Doesn't really add up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Principal Flutie said: I think he's probably talking about percentage of female acts, but it's still a fair point. And especially if they're willing to book pop acts higher up the bill now. It's not like there's a lack of female fronted bands and female artists out there. Florence and the Machine turned it down to do Summer Sessions, but even that wouldn't have made up the difference much. Florence at the summer sessions will be glorious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, well fan for life said: https://www.nme.com/news/music/trnsmt-festival-boss-responds-to-criticism-of-all-male-headliners-for-2019-2449598 Ok, fair enough, it might not be possible to book female headliners due to scheduling commitments at that time of the year. But having three female acts on the main stage across a whole weekend? Doesn't really add up. Doesn't add up at all. It's complete cobblers. Also, comparing Gerry Cinnamon to Oasis. Good lord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Yeah because Balado was such a perfect site for it all along. The issue was Ellis phoning in the same old shite on an annual basis to play; the change of location simply snapped customers out of an annual routine and as soon as they looked at it from a fresh perspective, T in the Park had almost nothing to offer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 T in the Park was going down the shitter a good couple of years before it moved to Strathallan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Balado was only right off the motorway for people travelling from the east: for those travelling from the west of Scotland - by far its biggest market - getting to the site typically involved a trundle through the single-carriageway roads of deepest, darkest Fife and then an hour's queue to actually enter/exit the site. And then a similar trudge from the bus/car parks to the campsite entrance. And T in the Park had the same issues surrounding safety and drug use at Balado every single year. The lineups were predictable and utterly stale. Your halcyon year of 2013 for example had Stereophonics (also played 2010), Calvin Harris (Friday headliner in 2013 moved to, err, Saturday headliner in 2014; also headlined King Tut's in 2012 and 2010), The Script (2011), Mumford and Sons (2010), David Guetta (2010, 2012), The Courteeners (2010) and The View (2011). You could perm a dozen other bands such as Kasabian for other years and find the same rotating cycles. The problems were not objectively worse; more people simply took notice of all these issues after it moved location and finally chucked it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Geoff Ellis is a dick, always has been. An astute businessman but a dick none the less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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