doulikefish Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 And Banging their sticks [emoji38] The mayors with the sticks are now mingling on the streets drinking bevy thats being offered to them [emoji1] Euronews ch 508 on sky im watching 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Just now, Cerberus said: Shat it then voted Tory to shat it even more. At least 25-30% of Scotland's population is viscerally pro-Union in its outlook and were never going to vote Yes no matter what, so the way they voted had nothing at all to do with fear. Where the referendum was lost for the Yes side was on the currency and EU issues because Alex Salmond's answers in the debates were far from convincing if you see things pragmatically and don't really care much either way emotionally, which was the swing vote portion of the electorate that Yes side had to win over to a greater extent than they did to win given so much of the older generation were never going to go for it. In a Catalan context people like that will probably go over to the Yes side if Madrid does something drastic in the next 24 hours or so, rather than play it softly and let international apathy fatally undermine the whole UDI thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ross. said: Pique will paint the trophy red and yellow. Probably be baw deep in Shakira first. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Probably be baw deep in Shakira first. He’s probably baws deep as we speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Fair pleased for Catalonia,showing the guts they have in the face of aggression from Madrid. Time will tell how this all plays out,but the catalans have made a huge leap forward. As for Scotland,what a red neck!! We get a free democratic vote on indy to break away from the sinking ship that is the uk and we brick it. The same uk that said if you vote no you will stay in the EU,we voted no and we're still on the way out !! They promised us the most powerful devolved parliament in the world....,what we got was some tax raising and welfare powers far short of what the Basque Country is in control of.....full tax powers,devo max/home rule etc!! Pleased for catalonia but cant help feel embarrassed for scotland,forever bought and sold for english gold !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What currency will Catalonia use? Pounds? Groats? The Euro? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He’s probably baws deep as we speak. Probably be baw deep in Shakira first. They have split up i thought? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 They have split up i thought? It’s a handy metaphor for Spain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 A pro separatist crowd. f**k off bbc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Shat it then voted Tory to shat it even more. Shat it then begged for it to be smeared all over our faces before offering payment for said smearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) The Madrid government left Puigdemont with little choice. They would have done direct rule even if he had called elections. Rajoy's stance has made me switch sides. I'm Catalan through my mother; If I had the vote, I would have voted no. The Jordis and the threat to the Police has turned me. I don't see a way back. Madrid have been told for years and didn't listen. I would rather this hadn't started but now definitely moving towards the independence side. Direct rule doesn't solve anything. Makes things worse. For some the worse the better, I do not see it like that. What happens now will depend on the willingness of the Catalan people (both castellanohablantes, residents of all backgrounds). Apathy or moving to a new republic. Force will not be accepted. Edited October 27, 2017 by tirso 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 The Madrid government left Puigdemont with little choice. They would have done direct rule even if he had called elections. Rajoy's stance has made me switch sides. I'm Catalan through my mother; If I had the vote, I would have voted no. The Jordis and the threat to the Police has turned me. I don't see a way back. Madrid have been told for years and didn't listen. I would rather this hadn't started but now definitely moving towards the independence side. Direct rule doesn't solve anything. Makes things worse. For some the worse the better, I do not see it like that. What happens now will depend on the willingness of the Catalan people (both castellanohablantes, residents of all backgrounds). Apathy or moving to a new republic. Force will not be accepted. Good luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: Now it all comes down to how Spain goes about enforcing Article 155. If they stop the Catalan government functioning through taking control of public bodies that's one thing. If they throw Puigdemont and other senior officials in prison and deploy the army to enforce their seizure of power that's another situation entirely. You'd think with the courts and seemingly the banking sector behind them Madrid could just electronically zap all Catalan Government funds back to Madrid. Much of the local administration could likely be carried out remotely too, with civil servants carrying on doing their jobs and getting paid normally. I expect a stalemate till new Catalan elections are called by Madrid, probably in January. If Catalan separatists independence seekers cooperate with holding them they'd have a good chance of gaining a credible democratic mandate for the first time. Both sides seem more determined on direct confrontation than finding a rational resolution though. What I don't understand is why Madrid is calling for new elections asap while Catalonia have decided not to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: A pro separatist crowd. f**k off bbc I’m sure they will use the same terminology for Brexit now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Shat it then voted Tory to shat it even more. The SNP have won two general elections (in Scotland) and a Scottish Parliament election since the referendum. Don't let those facts stop you from posting absolute drivel though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Will we see the formation of the 1st Bn P&B International Brigade going to fight alongside their Nationalist cousins? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, Ross. said: I’m sure they will use the same terminology for Brexit now... i'm not one for conspiracy but the BBC have been poor in the coverage. It's been too simplified with little context of what's been happening the last years. The separatists! Have you seen them... sounds scary haha The BBC correspondent failed to mention anything about the Pais Vasco governing party and Podemos voting against the application of 155. That is relatively significant. i'm going to a party tonight with all the Spanish. This will be a laugh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Will we see the formation of the 1st Bn P&B International Brigade going to fight alongside their Nationalist cousins? The small Alt-Right contingent would probably join up on Putin's instructions. Weird times. And then they would fall out and fight each other instead of Spain. Plus ca change. Edited October 27, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hopefully this will lead to the EU collapsing, I'm sick fed up of the establishment and big business running the show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, tirso said: i'm not one for conspiracy but the BBC have been poor in the coverage. It's been too simplified with little context of what's been happening the last years. The separatists! Have you seen them... sounds scary haha The BBC correspondent failed to mention anything about the Pais Vasco governing party and Podemos voting against the application of 155. That is relatively significant. i'm going to a party tonight with all the Spanish. This will be a laugh! Where are you? Pais Vasco or Podemos voting against is hardly breaking news surely? Edited October 27, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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