diamond_for_life Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-weeknd-ends-ties-with-hm-over-racist-advert-featuring-black-child-11200833 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/romelu-lukaku-black-is-beautiful-14129948.amp Whats the opinions on this ? Edited January 9, 2018 by diamond_for_life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think this is one of those situations where the racism is from those claiming that it's racism. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I doubt there was any racist intention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think ill advised is probably as far as I'd go with criticism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) I’m holding on to the belief that it is inadvertently racist rather than malicious but surely that has gone through a lot of people before getting published and nobody saw anything wrong. Also H&M’s child labour record is certainly worth a boycott of their cheap yet still fashionable clothes. Edited January 9, 2018 by Sloop John B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) I call my daughter "monkey" all the time and wouldn't hesitate to dress her in one of those hoodies. |Then again, I'm not running an advertising campaign. They should have forseen the repercussions Edited January 9, 2018 by whiskychimp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 You'd have to be a fucking idiot not to realise that was offensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Monkeys dont even wear clothes 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 They do when they are advertising tea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, whiskychimp said: I call my daughter "monkey" all the time and wouldn't hesitate to dress her in one of those hoodies. |Then again, I'm not running an advertising campaign. They should have forseen the repercussions I refer to groups that include myself using the word chimps or monkeys (like "us monkeys in the stand" for example) but yeah, maybe not the best thought out advertising campaign. They have got a lot of publicity out of it though..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, throbber said: Jungle and monkey are both words that have racist connotations around black people and how no one at H&M realised this is a disgrace. It is so obviously going to be taken as racist by a good number of people. Anyone who can’t see the problem with this, why not go up to a black child at a play park and say “Look at you, you are the coolest monkey in the jungle” and see how people react. Choosing to dress your own child in a slogan hoodie and saying it to strange kids in the park isn't really comparable. I'd feed my own daughter a banana but wouldn't go round offering bananas to black kids in the park. Your point is correct, just your example is pish. Edited January 9, 2018 by whiskychimp 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, whiskychimp said: Choosing to dress your own child in a slogan hoodie and saying it to strange kids in the park isn't really comparable. I'd feed my own daughter a banana but wouldn't go round offering black kids bananas in the park. Your point is correct, just your example is pish. ^^ offers white kids healthy snacks but won't give to other races^^ 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 That's a decent photoshop job from Lukaku tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myko Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 No more offensive than this is to vegans/vegetarians, whatever they're called this week.... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, throbber said: I was originally going to ask how people would feel if they overheard a middle aged white woman (the type who love speaking to strangers children) refer to a black child as the “coolest little monkey in the jungle” at a play park but I had less time before my break was over. Also, would you be happy to buy this hoody for a black child if you were friends with his parents? My kid is mixed.; if friends bought her that I'd think it was awesome. Would I buy it for a friend's kid? No. Maybe, if I only saw it on a hanger I might not see the racist element. I don't think that's relevant though, the advert is a total f**k up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Myko said: No more offensive than this is to vegans/vegetarians, whatever they're called this week.... Yes it is, and vegans and vegetarians are different things, and I can't recall the terms for them changing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Myko said: No more offensive than this is to vegans/vegetarians, whatever they're called this week.... It is different, vegan's haven't had centuries of oppression....... hopefully they will in the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I've heard many folk say "cheeky wee monkey" to kids over the years, none of the kids have been black though. I play safe and say "ya wee p***k" or "ya wee bitch" though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 H&M have received a huge amount of publicity over this. I’m cynical enough to believe that was a considered strategy and informed enough to know that the benefits to them will significantly outweigh the negatives. I had also never heard this particular ‘slogan’ used previously; I doubt most folk had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, throbber said: Anyone who can’t see the problem with this, why not go up to a black child at a play park and say “Look at you, you are the coolest monkey in the jungle” and see how people react. Thankfully I can see what the problem is and won't have to undergo this test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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