Hoose Rice Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, virginton said: Why? It's not the SPFL's job to maximise Hibernian FC's revenue to the detriment of other clubs. And of course if you were so keen on earning extra money, you probably shouldn't have got papped out of the League Cup at the group stage. It should be the SPFLs responsibility to maximise revenue for every single one of their member clubs. A normally sold out derby instead of a first home game attracting a different set of fans doesn’t do so. The detriment to what other club? What other club would it be to the detriment of by us having hearts at home first? In fact you could argue that other clubs having the third best team in the country would attract more revenue for their club when they would sell out their allocation at Easter road on a cold Wednesday night. Perhaps not Dingwall, Killie or Dundee Utd, Aberdeen. Im not so keen on earning extra money, because it’s getting spent on utter Shan already but I can see why the clubs chairman would do. It’s anything but illogical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: you could argue that other clubs having the third best team in the country would attract more revenue for their club when they would sell out their allocation at Easter road on a cold Wednesday night. Let's be honest here, everywhere Robbie's Euro Giants go this season the place is going to be jam-packed (geddit) with home fans, day-trippers, tourists from far and wide, and the global media. People will travel by any means necessary. Those fortunate enough to own their own car will drive, probably with the car crammed full with an unsafe number of passengers. Others will travel clinging to the roofs of buses, or huddled atop packed trains. Some will steal their neighbours bicycles, others will commandeer horses, while still more will simply set off days ahead and make the journey by foot. Local butchers will pin special rosettes in the window and bakers' windows will display cakes welcoming Budge's Best-of-the-rest Brigade to town. Tailors in towns fortunate enough to play host will compete with each other to present Scotland's Best-Dressed Coach with the most suitable gifts of bespoke attire as he steps down from the team bus to the awed gasps of the locals. In short, pal, it makes no difference to the rest of the league how and when The Maroon Pound is distributed. Get in line son, there's ten more teams waitin'... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: It should be the SPFLs responsibility to maximise revenue for every single one of their member clubs. A normally sold out derby instead of a first home game attracting a different set of fans doesn’t do so. The detriment to what other club? What other club would it be to the detriment of by us having hearts at home first? What on earth are you talking about now? It is to the clear detriment of Saint Johnstone/Motherwell/Livingston etc. (your most likely relegation rivals this season), if Hibs pick up the 4000 extra ticket sales your clown of an owner thinks he'd get from holding a Category B game during the festival - and then getting the derby at the time of Hibs' choosing. Because that's 4000 tickets worth of revenue to chuck at your squad in January to dig yourselves out of a hole. It would be completely and utterly ridiculous for the SPFL to rearrange fixtures to suit Hibs' best interests. There is an agreed way of scheduling games, you got Hearts in August, deal with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: Look how much I've manged to f**k up so far buddy. Reminds me of this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, virginton said: What on earth are you talking about now? It is to the clear detriment of Saint Johnstone/Motherwell/Livingston etc. (your most likely relegation rivals this season), if Hibs pick up the 4000 extra ticket sales your clown of an owner thinks he'd get from holding a Category B game during the festival - and then getting the derby at the time of Hibs' choosing. Because that's 4000 tickets worth of revenue to chuck at your squad in January to dig yourselves out of a hole. It would be completely and utterly ridiculous for the SPFL to rearrange fixtures to suit Hibs' best interests. There is an agreed way of scheduling games, you got Hearts in August, deal with it. We have a lot more money than any of they clubs regardless. Surely a full away end at one of they grounds from Hearts would be more beneficial for them than half a stand later on the season? For what its worth, I couldn't give a shit about the extra fans for one game. More interested in the state of the team and the shit the money we have has come to the club under Ron. Also, never once mentioned rearrange Jack Shit - but the league should look at fixtures of all clubs and games to maximise as much revenue as possible. Local derbies or games at Christmas when attendances otherwse are pap and games like that instead of sending Livi to Aberdeen on Boxing day or Morton to Annan next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Let's be honest here, everywhere Robbie's Euro Giants go this season the place is going to be jam-packed (geddit) with home fans, day-trippers, tourists from far and wide, and the global media. People will travel by any means necessary. Those fortunate enough to own their own car will drive, probably with the car crammed full with an unsafe number of passengers. Others will travel clinging to the roofs of buses, or huddled atop packed trains. Some will steal their neighbours bicycles, others will commandeer horses, while still more will simply set off days ahead and make the journey by foot. Local butchers will pin special rosettes in the window and bakers' windows will display cakes welcoming Budge's Best-of-the-rest Brigade to town. Tailors in towns fortunate enough to play host will compete with each other to present Scotland's Best-Dressed Coach with the most suitable gifts of bespoke attire as he steps down from the team bus to the awed gasps of the locals. In short, pal, it makes no difference to the rest of the league how and when The Maroon Pound is distributed. Get in line son, there's ten more teams waitin'... you're spending too much time on Follow Follow again mate. Are you not boycotting half the world because of unfair demotion/relegated because of being shite anymore? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 We have a lot more money than any of they clubs regardless. Surely a full away end at one of they grounds from Hearts would be more beneficial for them than half a stand later on the season? For what its worth, I couldn't give a shit about the extra fans for one game. More interested in the state of the team and the shit the money we have has come to the club under Ron. Also, never once mentioned rearrange Jack Shit - but the league should look at fixtures of all clubs and games to maximise as much revenue as possible. Local derbies or games at Christmas when attendances otherwse are pap and games like that instead of sending Livi to Aberdeen on Boxing day or Morton to Annan next season [emoji6] The SPFL's fixture secretary did a great interview with the BBC explaining all the many challenges faced in putting a fixture list together. Not only do they have to factor in obvious things like groundshares or not having Rangers and Celtic at home on the same day, there are also a load of other factors.One of those involves trying to avoid having two teams in Europe playing each other on a weekend in between ties, because it is possible that the scheduling (eg due to city clashes in Europe) could lead to one team playing on a Thursday and the other on a Tuesday, thus making it impossible to play in the weekend in between. That means they mostly pair up teams not in Europe with those in Europe during that period. That hugely limits who Hearts can play in that period, and thus makes it much more likely they'd play Hibs.With all that in mind, Hibs are in no position to be demanding that they have their fixtures specifically arranged for frivolous reasons like preferring not to play certain teams during the festival.In terms of having local matches during the entire festive period, it's easy to say until you realise it would leave Ross County basically without anyone to play for two weeks. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The SPFL's fixture secretary did a great interview with the BBC explaining all the many challenges faced in putting a fixture list together. Not only do they have to factor in obvious things like groundshares or not having Rangers and Celtic at home on the same day, there are also a load of other factors. One of those involves trying to avoid having two teams in Europe playing each other on a weekend in between ties, because it is possible that the scheduling (eg due to city clashes in Europe) could lead to one team playing on a Thursday and the other on a Tuesday, thus making it impossible to play in the weekend in between. That means they mostly pair up teams not in Europe with those in Europe during that period. That hugely limits who Hearts can play in that period, and thus makes it much more likely they'd play Hibs. With all that in mind, Hibs are in no position to be demanding that they have their fixtures specifically arranged for frivolous reasons like preferring not to play certain teams during the festival. In terms of having local matches during the entire festive period, it's easy to say until you realise it would leave Ross County basically without anyone to play for two weeks. Cool. Never once said we have a right to anything either - said I could see where Gordon was coming from and the League should be helping every club make as much money as possible, nothing just to do with Hibernian. Compensate RC then would be my suggestion or accommodate and assist a trip to Perth. Basically do everything possible to help all clubs make as much as possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: Cool. Never once said we have a right to anything either - said I could see where Gordon was coming from and the League should be helping every club make as much money as possible, nothing just to do with Hibernian. Compensate RC then would be my suggestion or accommodate and assist a trip to Perth. Basically do everything possible to help all clubs make as much as possible. All of this misses the point that the first Edinburgh Derby of the season is usually one of the first games. Edited July 23, 2022 by MacDonald Jardine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Rangers aside our club’s European matches are an litany of embarrassment.Harsh on Aberdeen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 9 hours ago, craigkillie said: One of those involves trying to avoid having two teams in Europe playing each other on a weekend in between ties, because it is possible that the scheduling (eg due to city clashes in Europe) could lead to one team playing on a Thursday and the other on a Tuesday, thus making it impossible to play in the weekend in between. That means they mostly pair up teams not in Europe with those in Europe during that period. That hugely limits who Hearts can play in that period, and thus makes it much more likely they'd play Hibs. Good thing Motherwell are helping out by exiting Europa Conference League as soon as they can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 9 hours ago, craigkillie said: With all that in mind, Hibs are in no position to be demanding that they have their fixtures specifically arranged for frivolous reasons like preferring not to play certain teams during the festival. Of course not, Gordon is slavering about this. Last season we played Hearts on the 5th match of the season, yes 2nd game is earlier but cest la vie. Also, I dont buy the "extra X thousand attendances" bit about August matches. I havent really seen much evidence of this in all my years of attending. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Of course not, Gordon is slavering about this. Last season we played Hearts on the 5th match of the season, yes 2nd game is earlier but cest la vie. Also, I dont buy the "extra X thousand attendances" bit about August matches. I havent really seen much evidence of this in all my years of attending. It's difficult with covid for recent seasons, obviously. But in 2019 Hibs opened with St Mirren at home on August 3rd in front of 16,631, slightly below average for that season. They next played Smurn at home in February and the crowd was only about 300 below that. Previous season they opened at home to Motherwell in front of 17,494, again, slightly below that season's average, on August 5th. Played them at home again in March and the crowd fell by only 300 again. Season before that, Thistle at home on the opening day on August 5th. 17,634 (also below average), and that crowd for the repeat fixture fell by less than 200 at the end of March. Seems his talk of 2,500 - 3,000 walk-ups being lost is shite. So, he's slavering. Edited July 23, 2022 by VincentGuerin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 So the people who attend the Festival aren't absolutely choking to take in some Premiership football during their trip? Fucking stunned by this 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: So the people who attend the Festival aren't absolutely choking to take in some Premiership football during their trip? Fucking stunned by this Why not? They could do with a laugh. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, Melanius Mullarkay said: Why not? They could do with a laugh. Reveal hidden contents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, MacDonald Jardine said: All of this misses the point that the first Edinburgh Derby of the season is usually one of the first games. Which it shouldn’t be. Like Celtic and Rangers is never ever one of the first games of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: So the people who attend the Festival aren't absolutely choking to take in some Premiership football during their trip? Fucking stunned by this According to FC Edinburgh's chairman they are hoping to attract families who would be "put off by the intimidating atmosphere at Easter Road and Tynecastle". The intimidating combined sounds of snoring/booing at ER must be putting off your average culture vulture then and a large number of Festival goers will be turning up to Subutteo Meadowbank this August 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 There's no room at Meadowbank surely? Only holds 499. After home and away allocations, will there be any seats left for anyone foolish enough to part with £18? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said: Which it shouldn’t be. Like Celtic and Rangers is never ever one of the first games of the season. Except when it is as pointed out earlier I can think of a number of times it's been the first or second game of the season, as it happens mainly at Tynecastle. I also don't remember him being greatly concerned about clubs at home making nothing off a crowd last Boxing Day. Of course that didn't affect Hibs in his tiny mind so wouldn't contravene whatever principle he thinks he's standing up for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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