Hedgecutter Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) On 20/07/2018 at 18:23, NorthernLights said: Aberdeen FC stadium court legal challenge submitted Will the court protect the special communities of Kingswells and Westhill, untouched by human civilization for millennium? Or will they just allow another development like has happened for years and years around the area? Indeed. Bar a few older houses, Kingswells was nothing but fields when Aberdeen were parading trophies around town in 1983 (and probably a fraction of the size in 1996). Certainly in 2010, the proposed greenbelt plan only skirted Westhill (figure below from that government report) and that was only extended slightly in 2012, the reason for which is anybody's guess. As for the actual 2017 report, it goes into a decent amount of detail about what a green belt is and the purposes for its creation, but listing a series of exceptions that would allow for development. The gist that I get from it is that it isn't a simple case of "it's protected in law, you can't do anything" as NKS would have you believe, but that exceptions can indeed be made with good reason. Quote Safeguarding the Green Belt helps to avoid coalescence of settlements and sprawling development on the edge of the city, maintaining Aberdeen’s landscape setting and providing access to open space. The Green Belt directs planned growth to the most appropriate locations and supports regeneration. Even with the area suddenly designated as green belt, the Kingsford site is the most appropriate location in the Aberdeen area, plus it's a pretty handy way of ensuring that the housing of Westhill & Kingswells don't coalesce. It's also clearly not going to stop anybody there accessing open space when there's a country park at Brimmond next door, nor is that land around it going to be doing much with a big f***-off dual carriageway running through it. Either NKS are blinkered or they're seriously clutching at straws here. Probably both actually. Edited August 7, 2018 by Hedgecutter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/7/2018 at 17:50, Hedgecutter said: Either NKS are blinkered or they're seriously clutching at straws here. Probably both actually. Apparently, and I have to say surprisingly, it is this. I was in convo with one of the Ward 13 councillors last night, who is very anti the stadium, as indeed are the other three, nevertheless this is the one whom I've got a semblance of a relationship with and is a good councillor. I asked what they thought the chances were of succeeding. "Nil". And they have told NKS this repeatedly. Apparently the case they are basing their appeal on as precedent is nothing like the Kingsford case, in particular the developer that time was the council itself which dramatically changes the lie of the land. Coming from the source it did, this is incredibly encouraging news for the Dons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 11 hours ago, fatshaft said: I asked what they thought the chances were of succeeding. "Nil". And they have told NKS this repeatedly. Apparently the case they are basing their appeal on as precedent is nothing like the Kingsford case, in particular the developer that time was the council itself which dramatically changes the lie of the land. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshaft Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Yup, they really are that clueless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 17 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Won't be surprised if it's an SFA tribunal (possibly Iain Brines, Derek Johnstone & Mitchell van der Gaag ) that overturns it all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 As an outsider I am not up to speed............so, my question is ; Although the NKS mob have raised objections, am I right in saying that the building process continues (I know the groundworks had started)? Or has the judicial process halted the building work? Bit of a fucker if its the second one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Yes Kingsford - wee guys #NoKingsford - shaggers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naegoodinthedark Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 As an outsider I am not up to speed............so, my question is ; Although the NKS mob have raised objections, am I right in saying that the building process continues (I know the groundworks had started)? Or has the judicial process halted the building work? Bit of a fucker if its the second one.No one knows if the work has stopped. It’s too far out of town for anyone to see, apparently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 NKS now objecting to drive-thru restaurants. https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/objections-submitted-against-planned-drive-thru-restaurants-near-kingsford-stadium/ Quote No Kingsford Stadium, a group opposed to the new football ground, has said the charity it has set up, called West Aberdeen Environmental Protection, will formally object to the application. “These drive-thru outlets are another gateway application, an attempt by developers to get a further foothold on greenspace in order to develop the north and south sides of the A944 from Kingswells to Westhill. “The threat to the green belt and green space around the communities of West Aberdeen is significant and the A944 corridor is subject to multiple development proposals.” Quote Afterwards, KCC secretary Ian Cox said: “We will be objecting to the application. “One of the reasons is because of the issue of access to the vets.” In a letter to the local authority, KCC said: “The access to the vet from Kingswells will be via the AWPR roundabout. “At peak times this will significantly increase travel times and could have significant effects on a sick pet.” What did the vets have to say? Quote Two people have formally supported the application – including Ardene House Veterinary Hospital director Mark Bayliss, who said: “I welcome the addition of a local amenity. “At present there is little variety or availability of food at lunchtime. “This new food outlet area will be a welcome addition for all local staff and people using the new bypass.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen Cowden Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Dundee’s new stadium to cost £15 - £18million, maybe another £2million if they’ve to pay for a new road. And it’s in Dundee!Not half way to Forfar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Aberdeen Cowden said: Dundee’s new stadium to cost £15 - £18million, maybe another £2million if they’ve to pay for a new road. And it’s in Dundee!Not half way to Forfar. It's almost as if different cities had different prices and availability of land? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Dundee’s new stadium to cost £15 - £18million, maybe another £2million if they’ve to pay for a new road. And it’s in Dundee!Not half way to Forfar. The Dundee Mega-Hyper new stadium thread for this pish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Aberdeen Cowden said: Dundee’s new stadium to cost £15 - £18million, maybe another £2million if they’ve to pay for a new road. And it’s in Dundee!Not half way to Forfar. What are you going to be like if Cowdenbeath ever decide to build a new stadium? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, kingjoey said: What are you going to be like if Cowdenbeath ever decide to build a new stadium? He’ll be dead that’s what he’ll be like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen Cowden Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: He’ll be dead that’s what he’ll be like. Hopefully not. But you never know. 22 minutes ago, kingjoey said: What are you going to be like if Cowdenbeath ever decide to build a new stadium? Not much chance of that ever happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Court dates have been set - hopefully will find out just before Christmas https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45680207 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 f**k Kingsford. Load of shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austinho Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Saw this on twitter. Don’t know if it would be physically possible, but looks the dogs bollocks. Edited September 29, 2018 by Austinho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Probably about £15-£20 million more expensive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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