JamesM82 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: I don't really follow... Surely the question for the relevant authorities is simply whether they're OK with an OF derby potentially being a mathematical title decider, or not? Why could that not be discussed and decided on until now? I think it has been discussed - the police are clearly opposed to it being a decider. That is why it would have been penciled in for the 22nd, when it looked like the league would be relatively tight. The problem is that this league position and the attitude of the police leaves them with very few options. One date is a bank holiday, another is a midweek and Celtic normally receive the trophy on the final day. The mooted "solution" is to play it on the second date (29th), but that runs into the problem of what if Celtic fail to win their first game after the split. One possible solution (which I haven't seen mooted publicly) would be for them to schedule the Celtic - Rangers game for the final day, with Celtic receiving the trophy in the previous (37th) game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie52 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, JamesM82 said: One possible solution (which I haven't seen mooted publicly) would be for them to schedule the Celtic - Rangers game for the final day, with Celtic receiving the trophy in the previous (37th) game. The guard of honour clapping the Champions on to the pitch won’t be a problem, not at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, JamesM82 said: I think it has been discussed - the police are clearly opposed to it being a decider. That is why it would have been penciled in for the 22nd, when it looked like the league would be relatively tight. The problem is that this league position and the attitude of the police leaves them with very few options. One date is a bank holiday, another is a midweek and Celtic normally receive the trophy on the final day. The mooted "solution" is to play it on the second date (29th), but that runs into the problem of what if Celtic fail to win their first game after the split. One possible solution (which I haven't seen mooted publicly) would be for them to schedule the Celtic - Rangers game for the final day, with Celtic receiving the trophy in the previous (37th) game. So they can't secure the necessary points against Rangers and they can't be presented with the trophy immediately after a game against Rangers either? Is that what you're saying? I'm a bit disappointed because I'd previously thought that nobody had a lower opinion of OF fans than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Rangers fans desperately trying to claim their fans don't have a horrid history of getting violent. I'm sure they'd all just sit back tutting when Celtic fans are on the pitch in front of them celebrating winning the league. They obviously forgot about the Scottish Cup final and Manchester. You can add Barcelona, Birmingham, Newcastle and many more to your examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 You can add Barcelona, Birmingham, Newcastle and many more to your examples. All Chelsea fans fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The fixtures will be released as soon as Lawell ok's them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Romeo said: The fixtures will be released as soon as Lawell ok's them. That sadly will be 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, JamesM82 said: I think it has been discussed - the police are clearly opposed to it being a decider. That is why it would have been penciled in for the 22nd, when it looked like the league would be relatively tight. The problem is that this league position and the attitude of the police leaves them with very few options. One date is a bank holiday, another is a midweek and Celtic normally receive the trophy on the final day. The mooted "solution" is to play it on the second date (29th), but that runs into the problem of what if Celtic fail to win their first game after the split. I understand that... and as you indicate - if the police are going to veto an OF derby on May Day weekend, midweek, the last day of the season, and any date on which the title could be decided mathematically, there aren't actually any dates which work. My confusion is why a solution isn't being worked-out until now - this "policy" has apparently been in place for 18yrs; despite their best efforts such a decider happened 6yrs ago; it could have been predicted as a possibility weeks ago. Why has devising a solution been left to this week and why may it take 5 days to devise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Why has devising a solution been left to this week and why may it take 5 days to devise? Look at the table. Why do you think it's taking them so long? Not only do they have to devise the best possible run of fixtures to help The Rangers finish second, they also have to plan out who is going to referee each of the top 6 fixtures to pretty much guarantee it. All without making it look overly obvious (which is pretty much impossible at this point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 hours ago, C4mmy31 said: Saturday was the only possible date the Accies V Killie game could take place what with scheduled & backlogged league fixtures and Scottish Cup replays taking up all midweeks since the winter break. Technically it could have been played tomorrow. But because it has no bearing on the make-up of the two halves of the table, it was sensible to have it as a weekend fixture. It’s not the first time Cup semi-final weekend has been used for such fixtures, but as far as I know it’s been 12 years since the last scheduled round on that weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank22 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 It's pretty simple really, play the hateful sectarian/terrorist kicking match behind closed doors but live on sky. Let everyone else know what the f**k they are doing so we can all make arrangements for those dates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naegoodinthedark Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 An easy Celtic win in the cup this weekend might trigger Armageddon, this removing the need for post split fixtures. Obviously post Armageddon fixtures would be required, and we’d still have to worry about cockroaches from both sides of the sectarian divide behaving themselves, so I’m not entirely sure what my point is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, naegoodinthedark said: An easy Celtic win in the cup this weekend might trigger Armageddon, this removing the need for post split fixtures. Obviously post Armageddon fixtures would be required, and we’d still have to worry about cockroaches from both sides of the sectarian divide behaving themselves, so I’m not entirely sure what my point is.... I'm not entirely sure what your point is either but I agree wholeheartedly with it nonetheless. Down with this kind of thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If this is the fuss over Celtic winning 7 in a row then what are the police gonnae do if the very skint Dave King can't stop Celtic grabbing 9 and 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The whole thing is an embarrassing shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingboots Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, Trackdaybob said: The whole thing is an embarrassing shambles All stemming from the fact two clubs supporters cannot be trusted to behave. Yet still pandered to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, shootingboots said: All stemming from the fact two clubs supporters cannot be trusted to behave. Yet still pandered to. Do you really think that's why this is? What is your favourite paper, the Sun or The Daily Record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingboots Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Romeo said: Do you really think that's why this is? Yes. Maybe you could give me the real reason then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Romeo said: Do you really think that's why this is? What is your favourite paper, the Sun or The Daily Record? There are obviously several inter-related issues to resolve. I would be stunned if one of them wasn’t minimising the chances of the poor innocent orcs being subject to goading. I would be flabbergasted if the main consideration wasn’t trying to stop either cheek crying about imbalance. I would probably die of shock if I found out that Killies’ interests were taken into account at all. What’s the real story scoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, naegoodinthedark said: An easy Celtic win in the cup this weekend might trigger Armageddon, this removing the need for post split fixtures. Obviously post Armageddon fixtures would be required, and we’d still have to worry about cockroaches from both sides of the sectarian divide behaving themselves, so I’m not entirely sure what my point is.... So the Armaggedon is going to see them evolve upwards into cockroaches....surely an improvement, bring on the Armageddon 1 hour ago, Gaz FFC said: If this is the fuss over Celtic winning 7 in a row then what are the police gonnae do if WHEN the very skint Dave King can't stop Celtic grabbing 9 and 10 FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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