afc_36_0 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 No idea why ferrari wouldn’t pit at least one of their cars under vsc, another balls up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 No as you don’t have to stay within a certain distance behind a car, it’s the earliest time of arrival which means the gaps will fluctuate during the lap - can be ten seconds ahead at one point, five seconds ahead a few corners later. Hamilton pits, this just got interesting. But surely if you are all reducing your speed by 40% the time gap should remain constant? Are you meaning that raikkonen just didn't drive optimally to the vsc so Hamilton closed up on him while remaining inside the vsc parameters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, JamesP_81 said: 8 minutes ago, IainMorton said: No as you don’t have to stay within a certain distance behind a car, it’s the earliest time of arrival which means the gaps will fluctuate during the lap - can be ten seconds ahead at one point, five seconds ahead a few corners later. Hamilton pits, this just got interesting. But surely if you are all reducing your speed by 40% the time gap should remain constant? Are you meaning that raikkonen just didn't drive optimally to the vsc so Hamilton closed up on him while remaining inside the vsc parameters? Yeah both drivers will be keeping within the limits at different times, so when Kimi slows down to stay within the limit Hamilton is going faster, then Lewis slows down and Kimi speeds up again etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yeah both drivers will be keeping within the limits at different times, so when Kimi slows down to stay within the limit Hamilton is going faster, then Lewis slows down and Kimi speeds up again etc.OK cheers, so effectively Hamilton going into the pits allows him to close right up as he's then going to 'lose' that time in the pit lane. Appalling decision by ferrari then, maybe they were trying to dupe Hamilton into a wrong move then hope the vsc was still on next lap. Ferrari strategists are either truly inept or just so much unluckier than the Mercedes guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Can see this going to Mexico, Hamilton needs to pit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Can see this going to Mexico, Hamilton needs to pit again.Not sure why merc didnt pit him when he would have got ahead of max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Great stuff there, by Max and by Vettel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_36_0 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 And bottas wonders why he has to play 2nd fiddle...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Delighted for Kimi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 What a race that was. Delighted for Kimi. Superb from Max too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Mon the Kimi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 So happy for kimi, great race been a long time since seen 3 different cars right with each other at the end. I may owe ferrari strategists a slight apology for comments made earlier on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterlichtie Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 A rare great battle at the front between the young, the mid age & the old man. Would be great to see more tense action like this in the future. For all those that questioned Ferrari tactic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Fair play to Kimi and Max. Brilliant start from Kimi won him the race, while I fully expected Max to go into full on stock car mode starting that far back, but that was one of his best ever drives, very mature for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 That was a brilliant race. That's one of the best circuits on the calendar. On strategy, both of them got it wrong. Ferrari fucked up under the VSC, then Mercedes left Hamilton out about 4 laps too long second time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Vettel once again showing his lack of race-craft. PS - For anyone watching on Sky did you hear the guy doing the F1 engine impressions on lap 9 just before Ricciardo went off?I thought I was hallucinating but they did mention it later and seemed surprised it had been broadcast to the world. Pleasantly surprised to see an actual race up front for the last few laps....if only it was that way every time. Watched Nascar from Kansas on laptop at the same time. I love Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Dindeleux said: Vettel once again showing his lack of race-craft. PS - For anyone watching on Sky did you hear the guy doing the F1 engine impressions on lap 9 just before Ricciardo went off? You could hear it on C4 as well. Really weird. Cracking race, and I'm absolutely delighted for Kimi to win a race before his retirement move to Sauber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I’m just watching the Williams documentary on Netflix. f**k me the fires on those early f1 cars were scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I’m just watching the Williams documentary on Netflix. f**k me the fires on those early f1 cars were scary.That is a brilliant documentary. Really captures an essence of the sport that a million hours of behind the scenes tomfoolery that Sky churn out on their F1 channel can't even come close to touching on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Red Bull looking good this weekend, Renault up there too with Sainz and Hulk. Mercedes and Ferrari over a second off the pace. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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