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16 hours ago, welshbairn said:

I don't know how they're supposed to get the number right at these things. If they quote the Police it's always low, if they quote the organisers it's always high. They'll get accused of bias either way.

Quote both, and say that the reality is somewhere in between would probably work.

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BBC caught fudging size of SNP win in euro elex, says it's only supposed to be a rough guide. Bizarre behaviour, this was presumably more work than just importing the real numbers into whatever they use for their infographics

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/17667364.bbc-issues-bizarre-response-over-its-dodgy-snp-infographic/?ref=ar

@welshbairn

 

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23 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

BBC caught fudging size of SNP win in euro elex, says it's only supposed to be a rough guide. Bizarre behaviour, this was presumably more work than just importing the real numbers into whatever they use for their infographics

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/17667364.bbc-issues-bizarre-response-over-its-dodgy-snp-infographic/?ref=ar

 

3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Bit paranoid mate, 1.30 in the morning and the twitter gopher snips a bit off the graphic to send it out quick, with all the right numbers. Shite attempt at editorial mind control if that was the objective. Most people know that 37.9% is a lot bigger than twice 14.7% without getting a ruler out.

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Bit paranoid mate, 1.30 in the morning and the twitter gopher snips a bit off the graphic to send it out quick, with all the right numbers. Shite attempt at editorial mind control if that was the objective. Most people know that 37.9% is a lot bigger than twice 14.7% without getting a ruler out.
BBC is biased and state based, but that 'National Report' is a bit tin foil and whataboutery
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BBC is biased and state based, but that 'National Report' is a bit tin foil and whataboutery


Yup. I’m all for pointing out journalistically dubious articles on the Beeb, but using The National (as opposed to The National) is a bit rich.
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15 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

What omission? The BBC piece does mention Turning Point UK - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-48478088/young-conservative-party-girls-can-do-politics

"Emily Hewertson doesn't think so. She's 19, and like many girls her age she likes clubbing and Instagram - but she's also a member of the Conservative party, an influencer for right-wing group Turning Point UK and an aspiring politician."

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

She'll certainly have influenced anyone who watched the video. Not in a good way.

I honestly doubt it. She came across as an attention-seeking loud mouth. 

It's hard to see why the New Statesman got so worked up about her. 

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News at 6 reporting on social services in Northamptonshire not reacting to  8 reports about an unsuitable father who later killed his baby son.

The fact that Northamptonshire council is bankrupt due to Tory Westminster cuts and the local Tory councils idiotic policies is quickly glossed over.

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38 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Went down the rabbit hole a bit here and found this cracker from a couple of years ago:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/35233637/a-us-woman-on-why-she-disagrees-with-obama-on-gun-control

 

Just Kate Andrews who works for the lobbyists the IEA, not an important thing to disclose.

 

 

Was going to ask what the IEA have got to do with gun control, and found the lovely Kate doing a podcast on that very issue, on the IEA website.

https://iea.org.uk/films/does-the-uk-need-a-second-amendment/

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1 hour ago, MixuFixit said:

If only they'd reveal their funders so we could tell when they really meant it or when they were just saying it for money.

Who funds the lobbyists IPPR which is campaigning for sweets and sugary drinks to have plain packaging like cigarettes?  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48499195.

"Instead, the Department of Health and Social Care is saying it is waiting to hear what England's chief medical officer, Prof Dame Sally Davies, has to say. Why? There is a recognition that bold moves are needed if the ambition to halve the child obesity rate by 2030 is to be achieved.

Dame Sally has been asked to review the steps that are being taken to ensure no stone is left unturned. In fact, she has already suggested that another measure floated by the IPPR - extending the tax on sugary drinks to other unhealthy foods - is a real option. And she is said to be open to the idea of plain packaging, which of course would be an even more radical step."

Government bodies funding lobbyists to promote their own policy agendas? Surely not! 

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45 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

Who funds the lobbyists IPPR which is campaigning for sweets and sugary drinks to have plain packaging like cigarettes?  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48499195.

It's not difficult to find out about IPPR's funding if you're interested

https://www.ippr.org/about/how-we-are-funded

If I was bothered by this, I would move my mortgage and car insurance in protest.

However, I'm more concerned about the funding of entities like "The Brexit Party Limited' and the various right-wing think tanks operating out of 55-57 Tufton Street. Any idea who funds them?

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5 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

However, I'm more concerned about the funding of entities like "The Brexit Party Limited' and the various right-wing think tanks operating out of 55-57 Tufton Street. Any idea who funds them?

Like all registered political parties, The Brexit Party will be required to disclose its funders in its returns to the Electoral Commission.

I don't know who funds any think tanks. I would guess that their donors are similar to the IPPR - big business, charitable trusts, wealthy individuals.

John Mills, a major Leave campaign funder, is one of the biggest IPPR donors.

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1 minute ago, Bishop Briggs said:

1) Like all registered political parties, The Brexit Party will be required to disclose its funders in its returns to the Electoral Commission.

2) I don't know who funds any think tanks. I would guess that their donors are similar to the IPPR - big business, charitable trusts, wealthy individuals.

1) The Brexit Party Limited claimed to have raised "£750,000 in donations online, all in small sums of less than £500" in their first ten days. Aye, that will be why the Electoral Commission felt it was appropriate to visit them for "active oversight and regulation" of party funding last month.

2) Why do you make a guess that the Tufton Street funders are similar to the IPPR's?  For example, rumour has it that many of these so-called think tanks are funded by hard right US groups. Do you consider the Nationwide Building Society to fit that profile?

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