itzdrk Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Can’t be serious surely? The video on the left is absolutely conclusive. He goes forward and puts his leg out, and would have been in total control and standing up, had he not been pulled backwards whilst one foot is off the ground and already in forward motion, which pulls his leg upwards and body downwards/backwards. There’s nothing he can do there about being out of control, it’s is caused entirely by the blatant foul on him. It’s a dreadful decision at the time, but an utterly scandalous one to not be rescinded on viewing that footage (which presumably the panel had). His leg isn't involuntarily thrown towards his opponent because he has been pulled backwards. 7 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Behave His shirt was being pulled which in turn caused him to fall back and lose control of where he was going. I said previously that regardless of how poor the highlights are you can still clearly see it’s not a sending off. I’m not entirely convinced he makes contact with Duffy. If his shirt isn’t being pulled back then he doesn’t make the “tackle” as he wouldn’t have to stretch for the ball as much as he did. His shirt is pulled before he sticks his leg out, it's dangerous play as he isn't in control - he is somewhat unlucky in that he was able to keep his leg low but it was dangerous to put his leg out like that while not in control of himself and could very easily have hurt someone. Would all have been avoided if the referee reacted to the shirt pull in the first place but I can't see how we thought we had footage that showed it wasn't serious foul play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, itzdrk said: His leg isn't involuntarily thrown towards his opponent because he has been pulled backwards. His shirt is pulled before he sticks his leg out, it's dangerous play as he isn't in control - he is somewhat unlucky in that he was able to keep his leg low but it was dangerous to put his leg out like that while not in control of himself and could very easily have hurt someone. Would all have been avoided if the referee reacted to the shirt pull in the first place but I can't see how we thought we had footage that showed it wasn't serious foul play. Just rewatched it frame by frame to make sure I wasn’t imagining it. Picture shows when the pull back starts, and his leg is clearly raised off the ground. The first bit of your post here is factually incorrect. The inertia of his forward movement before the pull mean that his already raised leg is thrown upwards and his body is thrown backwards, all whilst still moving forwards, it’s the physics of the situation. There is nothing he can do to stop what happens because of the shirt pull. Edited March 8, 2023 by Honest_Man#1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 There's only one way to clear this up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 52 minutes ago, itzdrk said: That's quite a bit of fantasy - he was pulled backwards which made him to fall forwards? I've got the footage here and can't definitely say that this is not the serious foul play that I have listed in bold below. That's even more conclusive that the Inverness player caused it by dragging him back !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, itzdrk said: His leg isn't involuntarily thrown towards his opponent because he has been pulled backwards. His shirt is pulled before he sticks his leg out, it's dangerous play as he isn't in control - he is somewhat unlucky in that he was able to keep his leg low but it was dangerous to put his leg out like that while not in control of himself and could very easily have hurt someone. Would all have been avoided if the referee reacted to the shirt pull in the first place but I can't see how we thought we had footage that showed it wasn't serious foul play. You don't ban the car for hitting the pedestrian, you ban the driver !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid_in_Exiile Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, rb123! said: There's only one way to clear this up If VAR extended to the Championship then the SFA would only have to dig even deeper in to what I shall laughingly call the "referee talent pool" to meet the needs of two VAR divisions. Based on the quality of the officials we are now seeing in the Champion - due to just the Premiership's VAR resource needs - that would result in the lower Divisions being referred 100% by completely clueless numpties. Hang on, you may be onto something here..... Edited March 8, 2023 by Yid_in_Exiile typos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Scott Lambie must be delighted to find that he has itzdrk in his corner…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) With our horrendous highlights trying to identify players is hard enough let alone their limbs. It gives the SFA an easy out as they say the footage is hard to discern. Also you need the cunto of a ref to admit he erred. I fully expect he didn't. The club should definitley give the SFA it tight. More generally, I'm sick fed up of abject refereeing and refs being above criticism. It's a nonsense, they are treated like a protected species. Also McLean getting Ayr matches. Statistically (our results) show he is the worst referee we have ever encountered. I wonder why that is? Incompetent fuckers. They aren't smart enough to be corrupt tbf. Fucking eejits. Edited March 8, 2023 by Trogdor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Just rewatched it frame by frame to make sure I wasn’t imagining it. Picture shows when the pull back starts, and his leg is clearly raised off the ground. The first bit of your post here is factually incorrect. The inertia of his forward movement before the pull mean that his already raised leg is thrown upwards and his body is thrown backwards, all whilst still moving forwards, it’s the physics of the situation. There is nothing he can do to stop what happens because of the shirt pull. Frame by frame, his leg didn't get thrust up, it went straight in. As all accounts attest he had little control due to the shirt pull, that's easily adjudged to be serious foul play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: Frame by frame, his leg didn't get thrust up, it went straight in. As all accounts attest he had little control due to the shirt pull, that's easily adjudged to be serious foul play. I’m obviously watching a different video. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: I’m obviously watching a different video. His foot literally goes straight out then lunges in from here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: His foot literally goes straight out then lunges in from here. Due to inertia and his upper half being forcefully pulled backwards, forcing the leg to raise up. There is absolutely no ‘lunging’ at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Maybe this is a daft idea, but could we not have asked for some kind of supporting statement or something from ICT if they didn't feel it was a red card either? I know they won the match and probably wouldn't care that we have a player suspended, but still. It would be good if clubs showed some solidarity in calling out bad refereeing decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 It doesn't matter if St Peter himself drifted down from the clouds with a crisp 4x overhead shot of the incident. In order for an appeal to be successful, the official has to concede that he may have been in error. And there was about as much chance of that happening here as there is of Douglas Ross joining the International Brigades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibuya Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Who's the ref on Monday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayr23 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Shibuya said: Who's the ref on Monday? Heard Willie Young is having to do it due to a lack of referees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shibuya said: Who's the ref on Monday? It better not be 'Cunto McCuntface' Lambie or 'DKB' McLean or I may implode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shibuya said: Who's the ref on Monday? Nick Walsh, actually one of the better ones, did our game the other week vs Partick and then the league cup final the next weekend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Was talking to the boy, who seems quite excited about the game on Monday. He asked if I had been to a Falkirk game at Somerset when I was around his age. Does anyone remember a game in 03/04, Campbell money was the manager and I'm convinced the score was Ayr 2-3 Falkirk Russell latapy and John Hughes stick in my mind (more than half my lifespan ago ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzar Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, WATTOO said: It's either complete incompetence or much worse corruption, take your pick...... Okay, I choose both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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