United1973 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Is there anyone else who objects to being swore at? Just for fucking future fucking reference. Aye a fucking do lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Aye, I'd argue that the our wildly inconsistent form and ability to completely bottle every big game in the last couple of years (other than that night in Inverness), has been more detrimental to the general interest in the club from supporters outwith all of us core supporters than it would be to have a manager that is less interested in "community" aspects. I'm all for community engagement and increasing the image of the club, but the best way to do that is by winning games. Fair weather fans may look kindly on the club if we're doing good stuff out with football, but I don't see them buying season tickets if it's clear we are rotten to watch on the pitch. Give us a manager that knows how to win games. Edited January 19 by AuAl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Thumper said: I know it's a low bar but compare the club's media output under McCall to that under the next two managers. I'd argue that it was better than Bullen's as well for that matter. But my main beef was with the idea that McCall somehow didn't care or put in the effort. His problem is the exact opposite. At no point did I say McCall didn’t care or put in the effort, but I do think he prioritised what HE considered to be important, which I think could be a source of tension with the current setup. That wasn’t always a good thing - his total disinterest in the Academy meant he completely missed the emergence of Luke McCowan (at the same time as he was out signing dross like Calvin Miller). And as far as I can tell, there were plenty of occasions where Scally did take training on a miserable January morning. But in the end, if we’re looking for an experienced manager, on our budget, with a proven track record of success at our level, then McCall would be an obvious choice. If he hadn’t been Ayr manager previously, with the alleged baggage of his walk out (he didn’t really walk out on us), I’d say he was just about the outstanding candidate available. Should you never go back? Ally did it I suppose, and it worked out fine. I just don’t have a great deal of confidence in the current setup getting it right, given we’ve spent 2 years prioritising enthusiasm, commitment and likeability whilst completely taking our eye off the ball in terms of real progress on the park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Hawk89 said: Shorter commute to Glasgow Some years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayr23 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You can get former Academy coach Tony Bryson at 20/1 on McBookie if you’re fast! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nelson said: We could barely get him out his West End coffee shop to take training at times. 17 minutes ago, Nelson said: At no point did I say McCall didn’t care or put in the effort Edited January 19 by Thumper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayr23 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Mathie now at 16/1! That updated list is absolutely hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, Ayr23 said: Mathie now at 16/1! That updated list is absolutely hilarious. If I was Tony Bryson, I would be firing on £50 to get to the top of the list! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 We are probably 48 hours away from a full meltdown of the support as time passes on without an update and rumours of another rejection come out. Be even worse if Clyde get a result tonight. Monday will be the last full week of the active window to get folk in or out the club. This is were the club needed to have a hand on the collective shoulder of the support from the start, which has been a problem for the last couple of years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Right who put money on mulgrew? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkyshotton Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 minutes ago, Ayr23 said: Mathie now at 16/1! That updated list is absolutely hilarious. If that’s the “real” list of candidates then just shut the club down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Bring him home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Someone on here causing bother tell me who they are I'll sort them out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1nickydevlin Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Dean keenan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Looking forward to them blindsiding everyone and appointing Jamie Murphy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: We are probably 48 hours away from a full meltdown of the support as time passes on without an update and rumours of another rejection come out. Be even worse if Clyde get a result tonight. Monday will be the last full week of the active window to get folk in or out the club. This is were the club needed to have a hand on the collective shoulder of the support from the start, which has been a problem for the last couple of years. What does this even mean? What are people expecting them to say right now that would satisfy everyone? If it had been weeks then yes you’d expect some sort of update but it’s been 4 days. Clubs don’t tend to keep supporters updated with every step of appointing a a manager. Putting loads of info in the public domain while the process is still ongoing generally isn’t a good idea. It’s also not their responsibility to release a denial statement in response to some rumours floating about on Pie and Bovril. We’re not Rangers. I’ve said it already but I don’t understand the clamour for statements/updates every 5 minutes that goes on in this thread sometimes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: If I was Tony Bryson, I would be firing on £50 to get to the top of the list! It would be some story arc for Bryson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Just now, eez-eh said: What does this even mean? What are people expecting them to say right now that would satisfy everyone? If it had been weeks then yes you’d expect some sort of update but it’s been 4 days. Clubs don’t tend to keep supporters updated with every step of appointing a a manager. Putting loads of info in the public domain while the process is still ongoing generally isn’t a good idea. It’s also not their responsibility to release a denial statement in response to some rumours floating about on Pie and Bovril. We’re not Rangers. I’ve said it already but I don’t understand the clamour for statements/updates every 5 minutes that goes on in this thread sometimes. I think if communication was generally good then people would be more patient. The fact they've struggled a bit in that area lately means many people will simply transfer their existing overall negative impression to the specific matter of the managerial search. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 minutes ago, Iain said: I think if communication was generally good then people would be more patient. The fact they've struggled a bit in that area lately means many people will simply transfer their existing overall negative impression to the specific matter of the managerial search. The secrecy over team news is a black mark. No denying that. I’m sure there’s other things I’m forgetting as well. But it feels like some people want statements for the sake of it sometimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eez-eh said: What does this even mean? What are people expecting them to say right now that would satisfy everyone? If it had been weeks then yes you’d expect some sort of update but it’s been 4 days. Clubs don’t tend to keep supporters updated with every step of appointing a a manager. Putting loads of info in the public domain while the process is still ongoing generally isn’t a good idea. It’s also not their responsibility to release a denial statement in response to some rumours floating about on Pie and Bovril. We’re not Rangers. I’ve said it already but I don’t understand the clamour for statements/updates every 5 minutes that goes on in this thread sometimes. We sacked a manager and are looking to appoint a new one and haven’t heard a thing from the guy who runs the football side of the club… As I said before, last time Mathie was clear about updating throughout in terms of the progress, a timeline and what they were looking for etc. If you previously set a standard, then people will look for that to be matched. A singular update with a timeline would be absolutely fine - are they waiting on applications, are they approaching people, when are they interviewing people etc etc. I don’t see why that’s a particularly difficult thing to do over an entire week, and it isn’t much to ask for. Edited January 19 by No_Problemo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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