Superhursty7 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 10 minutes ago, malkyshotton said: Signed for us and then Stj signed him from us for fee, allegedly. Sorry @itzdrk If ture Mathie is a genius 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, ryanayr1987 said: Exactly why would we sign him then let him leave for free? Surely we would have negotiated to get something out of the deal? I'm very happy if we did infact recieve a fee. Just find the idea that St Johnstone wanted to pay a fee for him strange. Also odd that we would have signed him and not announced it, unless this all happened very quickly. More funds in the war chest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkyshotton Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, ryanayr1987 said: Exactly why would we sign him then let him leave for free? Surely we would have negotiated to get something out of the deal? They’ve supposedly paid a fee for him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 This can’t be true. We didn’t announce he had signed, which we would’ve done if he had signed. So he has gone to St Johnston on a free or else they paid Killie a small fee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1nickydevlin Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Defo true btw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkyshotton Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 6 minutes ago, North Terrace Gazza said: This can’t be true. We didn’t announce he had signed, which we would’ve done if he had signed. So he has gone to St Johnston on a free or else they paid Killie a small fee. Heard this around a week ago or so and I didn’t post it for this very reason. Seemed to bonkers to be true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 The local paper in Perth are saying they signed him on a free from Kilmarnock 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) Surely it would depend on when his contact at Kilmarnock officially ended. Because if all he had signed with Ayr was effectively a PCA I thought they weren't actually legally binding and St. Johnstone could have just signed him anyway? If his contact at Ayr had started them St J. would have needed to negotiate with Ayr, but given Ayr hadn't announced a signing I find it a bit strange. Edited June 20 by super_carson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Even if it was minutes old, the contract would still be binding, there would be legal and registration fees involved, maybe even a signing on fee paid. Ayr would at least expect all of that to be covered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-ish Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 If this is true then Mathie has learned to use the Force. That's definitely a jedi mind trick. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC 1910 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Would this all not depend on when his registration with Killie ended and if he could be registered with us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United1973 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Toast and jam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 37 minutes ago, super_carson said: Surely it would depend on when his contact at Kilmarnock officially ended. Because if all he had signed with Ayr was effectively a PCA I thought they weren't actually legally binding and St. Johnstone could have just signed him anyway? If his contact at Ayr had started them St J. would have needed to negotiate with Ayr, but given Ayr hadn't announced a signing I find it a bit strange. Ross County once bought a minibus for St Johnstone after Richard Brittain decided not to honour his pre contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_carson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 17 minutes ago, itzdrk said: Ross County once bought a minibus for St Johnstone after Richard Brittain decided not to honour his pre contract. What do we reckon Sanders was worth, a mini? Robin Reliant? Bike with a flat tyre? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muZZa__44 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Some fruit pastilles and a half used packet of extra cool breeze 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Sounds completely mental but I didn't think we'd release McGinty until we had someone else in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-ish Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, super_carson said: What do we reckon Sanders was worth, a mini? Robin Reliant? Bike with a flat tyre? I'd personally like to see Bill McWilliams get his Pope mobile kitted out with some new mods. It's the least they could do for taking Sanders off us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkyshotton Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, super_carson said: What do we reckon Sanders was worth, a mini? Robin Reliant? Bike with a flat tyre? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, super_carson said: Surely it would depend on when his contact at Kilmarnock officially ended. Because if all he had signed with Ayr was effectively a PCA I thought they weren't actually legally binding and St. Johnstone could have just signed him anyway? If his contact at Ayr had started them St J. would have needed to negotiate with Ayr, but given Ayr hadn't announced a signing I find it a bit strange. A PCA is effectively a gentleman's agreement. There's nothing binding about them and a player is well within their rights to change their mind at a later point. Calum Elliot agreed a PCA with Livi before signing for us and was pictured in a training top with a pen and paper, only for us to announce him a few weeks later. You might find some clubs do a courtesy deal like Ross County did, but it's an absolute token gesture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Broken Algorithms said: A PCA is effectively a gentleman's agreement. There's nothing binding about them and a player is well within their rights to change their mind at a later point. Calum Elliot agreed a PCA with Livi before signing for us and was pictured in a training top with a pen and paper, only for us to announce him a few weeks later. You might find some clubs do a courtesy deal like Ross County did, but it's an absolute token gesture. Mr Maurcice Johnston springs to mind as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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