cowdenbeath Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, Jacksgranda said: A derogatory term for an Italian and other swarthy Mediterranean types. As i said never heard of that one maybe it had died out by the age I noticed such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 25/06/2018 at 20:44, ICTJohnboy said: Nothing wrong with the Waltons, mate. You can't really tell from the daytime repeats because they've cut out all the sex and violence and swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 27/06/2018 at 09:45, Ned Nederlander said: The Italian half of my household claims to have never been called a Tally, Wop or any version of 'Eyetie' in her puff - says the only derogatory thing anyone's ever said to her was when I claimed I woke up next to a horses head every single morning. Whereas she wakes up next to a horse's arse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 01/07/2018 at 12:22, cowdenbeath said: As i said never heard of that one maybe it had died out by the age I noticed such things. It’s an American term, supposedly stands for “without papers” and refers to Italian immigrants. If someone uses it in this country they’ve probably watched too many gangster films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, The OP said: It’s an American term, supposedly stands for “without papers” and refers to Italian immigrants. If someone uses it in this country they’ve probably watched too many gangster films. Didn't know the origin of the word so that's today's lesson. As a kid my granny gave me some of my dad's old 'war books', they would have been written in the 40's and sometimes referred to Italians as 'dagos'. Especially if they were being underhand like attacking the plucky Brits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Didn't know the origin of the word so that's today's lesson. As a kid my granny gave me some of my dad's old 'war books', they would have been written in the 40's and sometimes referred to Italians as 'dagos'. Especially if they were being underhand like attacking the plucky Brits. According to wiki that origin is actually made up, like ned standing for non-educated delinquent. Apparently it actually comes from guappo which basically seems to be southern Italian slang for wide-o. Pretty much all the Italian immigrants to Scotland were from the North or middle of Italy rather than the south which maybe explains why it’s just really an American term. Always thought of dago meaning Spanish (maybe from Fawlty Towers), never knew it referred to Italians too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, The OP said: According to wiki that origin is actually made up, like ned standing for non-educated delinquent. Apparently it actually comes from guappo which basically seems to be southern Italian slang for wide-o. Pretty much all the Italian immigrants to Scotland were from the North or middle of Italy rather than the south which maybe explains why it’s just really an American term. Always thought of dago meaning Spanish (maybe from Fawlty Towers), never knew it referred to Italians too. Our racists are a bit thick. Dago comes from Diego, a Spanish name. Italians also used to be called "Spics", short for Hispanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Our racists are a bit thick. Dago comes from Diego, a Spanish name. Italians also used to be called "Spics", short for Hispanic. Spose it’s the same blanketing which makes all east asians chinese and south asians pakistanis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I may be imagining this but I'm sure I remember an episode where one of the Waltons sucked off a horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: I may be imagining this but I'm sure I remember an episode where one of the Waltons sucked off a horse. I do recall that Mary Ellen enjoyed having fifteen hands between her legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, GordonD said: You can't really tell from the daytime repeats because they've cut out all the sex and violence and swearing. 52 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: I may be imagining this but I'm sure I remember an episode where one of the Waltons sucked off a horse. 10 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: I do recall that Mary Ellen enjoyed having fifteen hands between her legs. How dare you post such scurrilous comments on my decent, clean living , god fearing family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: Our racists are a bit thick. Dago comes from Diego, a Spanish name. Italians also used to be called "Spics", short for Hispanic. Hispanic refers to Spain, not Italy. So (as 'spic' is an American term) more likely to be used about Mexicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 "Can I go to the Tally for a pokey hat" is right and that 'Eye-tie' was never used to describe an ice cream van around the Glasgow/Lanarkshire area. I am also certain that most jokes about me and 'Scotch' have been done to death. Think of a new one and I may laugh [emoji6]When double nugget was a black man off the Tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, GordonD said: Hispanic refers to Spain, not Italy. So (as 'spic' is an American term) more likely to be used about Mexicans. That was my point about how thick our racists are. I've heard Brits use "spics" to refer to Italians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: That was my point about how thick our racists are. I've heard Brits use "spics" to refer to Italians. Ah, whooshed. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: That was my point about how thick our racists are. I've heard Brits use "spics" to refer to Italians. Also heard a *** stand outside a chippy with an Italy flag on the front and say fucking ****** flag. The latter stars are what kinky et al mean when they refer to green yins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 7 hours ago, The OP said: According to wiki that origin is actually made up, like ned standing for non-educated delinquent. Apparently it actually comes from guappo which basically seems to be southern Italian slang for wide-o. Pretty much all the Italian immigrants to Scotland were from the North or middle of Italy rather than the south which maybe explains why it’s just really an American term. Always thought of dago meaning Spanish (maybe from Fawlty Towers), never knew it referred to Italians too. I know a guy of Italian descent who told me that a surprising amount of fourth or fifth generation Italian Scots - descendants of the Italians who came here around the turn of the last century - originate from only two or three distinct locations. His great-grandfather or whatever came from a wee village somewhere near Naples and when he visited it it turned out he was either related to or knew somebody from home who was related to virtually everybody he met there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, mjw said: When double nugget was a black man off the Tally. Not a term we ever used. However, I mentioned a double nugget the other day. Possibly the best ice cream delight on the planet. 52 minutes ago, The OP said: The latter stars are what kinky et al mean when they refer to green yins. Eh? We absolutely don't. Your paranoia is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, mjw said: When double nugget was a black man off the Tally. A black man was a slider with one ordinary wafer and one mallow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 9 hours ago, The OP said: It’s an American term, supposedly stands for “without papers” and refers to Italian immigrants. If someone uses it in this country they’ve probably watched too many gangster films. Since I'm responsible for this I'd like to say I got it from this man's autobiography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Esposito Although I'm pretty certain it was also used in the Sopranos episode I'm currently watching, so, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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