pandarilla Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 It’s funny that the undemocratic leader (Corbyn) failed massively. You are a broken record with a ridiculously-simplistic point. Please improve the quality and originality of your posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, pandarilla said: You are a broken record with a ridiculously-simplistic point. Please improve the quality and originality of your posts. Corbyn wanted to ignore the result of a referendum. Undemocratic, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Corbyn wanted to ignore the result of a referendum. Undemocratic, no?Like I said, boring and repetitive. Try to add more value to the threads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Like I said, boring and repetitive. Try to add more value to the threads. And nobody, including you, has done anything to argue against it. Corbyn didn’t want democracy and he paid the price, as did Swinson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 We have rubbish press and desperately low trust in press statistics compared to our neighbours but we don't have the world's worst press by any stretch.We have like 500,000 opinion columnists all of whom do the same pose that says “I’m cutting through the crap from BOTH sides” while they write variations on “Mr Crobyn, have you considered that I enjoy eating dirt and neglecting my kids?” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 'As a lifelong member of the left, I cannot vote for Corbyn. In his allotments, he grows the marrows favoured by the liberal elite and not the more austere working man's carrot' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: 'As a lifelong member of the left, I cannot vote for Corbyn. In his allotments, he grows the marrows favoured by the liberal elite and not the more austere working man's carrot' I can fully understand why working class people who have suffered years of Tory austerity could vote for an Eton educated buffoon who is a proven liar and holds them in contempt ahead of a socialist who is a member of the liberal elite. Actually I can’t understand it at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Still not a peep from Richard Leonard Such a shitebag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Still not a peep from Richard Leonard Such a shitebag To be fair, he did come out with the "I could be the first minister" line again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Still not a peep from Richard Leonard Such a shitebag He said that big lessons had to be learned about the two big constitutional questions. What else are you looking for?There's far too much talk and nonsense at the moment. If he doesn't get a clear vision and strategy sorted before the next election he'll be gone, and I think he's well aware of that. It's difficult to know how Scottish Labour do that, without losing a lot of their (already threadbare) membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I read somewhere that the vacuous bint Jess Phillips is being touted in some quarters as the next leader. I can only assume that this is coming from people who don’t have the first clue about the Labour Party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 There’ll be a Labour Left for Self-Determination group. Whether it gets the party to acknowledge the need to support a referendum or face extinction is another question. Yvette Cooper hammering Corbyn’s article in the Observer tonight. Fair play it was her whipping the members to abstain on a Tory welfare bill that made Corbyn leader so I suppose she can criticise other people’s failure to self-reflect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The whining about the press is pathetic. The SNP have never had the press. In fact, Labour still managed to lose Scotland completely with the Scottish press, including the BBC as their official mouthpieces. The press were able to attack Corbyn so easily because he was shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: I read somewhere that the vacuous bint Jess Phillips is being touted in some quarters as the next leader. I can only assume that this is coming from people who don’t have the first clue about the Labour Party. Oh I don't know it seems to work for the Tories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The whining about the press is pathetic. The SNP have never had the press. In fact, Labour still managed to lose Scotland completely with the Scottish press, including the BBC as their official mouthpieces. The press were able to attack Corbyn so easily because he was shite.I don't disagree but SNP supporters make a big deal about it as well, and rightly so. There's also more of a factor with the London based media - who didn't fully focus their attention on the SNP until very late on and left the Scottish media to do it (yes still biased - bit without the level of hostility and weight that fleet street et al brings). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Pack Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Labour are finished [emoji23] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Yeah but like, we have a better press than Turkmenistan and whatnot. The print media is in severe decline as news stories are a day late at least and the columnists are self opinionated and do not reflect the views of the public. As one poster said, 'There once was Blacksmiths' Can't comment on the Turkmenistan press angle as I haven't been there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Yeah but like, we have a better press than Turkmenistan and whatnot.Our press is better than the Australian press, easily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, Old Pack said: Labour are finished That's old news in Scotland, the 2015 GE returned just one Labour MP. The same one as on Friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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