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What is the point of Labour ?


pawpar

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We have rubbish press and desperately low trust in press statistics compared to our neighbours but we don't have the world's worst press by any stretch.


We have like 500,000 opinion columnists all of whom do the same pose that says “I’m cutting through the crap from BOTH sides” while they write variations on “Mr Crobyn, have you considered that I enjoy eating dirt and neglecting my kids?”

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9 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

'As a lifelong member of the left, I cannot vote for Corbyn. In his allotments, he grows the marrows favoured by the liberal elite and not the more austere working man's carrot'

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I can fully understand why working class people who have suffered years of Tory austerity could vote for an Eton educated buffoon who is a proven liar and holds them in contempt ahead of a socialist who is a member of the liberal elite.

 

 

 

 

Actually I can’t understand it at all.

 

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Still not a peep from Richard Leonard
Such a shitebag 
He said that big lessons had to be learned about the two big constitutional questions. What else are you looking for?

There's far too much talk and nonsense at the moment.

If he doesn't get a clear vision and strategy sorted before the next election he'll be gone, and I think he's well aware of that.

It's difficult to know how Scottish Labour do that, without losing a lot of their (already threadbare) membership.
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There’ll be a Labour Left for Self-Determination group. Whether it gets the party to acknowledge the need to support a referendum or face extinction is another question.

Yvette Cooper hammering Corbyn’s article in the Observer tonight. Fair play it was her whipping the members to abstain on a Tory welfare bill that made Corbyn leader so I suppose she can criticise other people’s failure to self-reflect.

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The whining about the press is pathetic. The SNP have never had the press. In fact, Labour still managed to lose Scotland completely with the Scottish press, including the BBC as their official mouthpieces. The press were able to attack Corbyn so easily because he was shite.

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10 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I read somewhere that the vacuous bint Jess Phillips is being touted in some quarters as the next leader.  I can only assume that this is coming from people who don’t have the first clue about the Labour Party.

 

Oh I don't know it seems to work for the Tories 

 

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The whining about the press is pathetic. The SNP have never had the press. In fact, Labour still managed to lose Scotland completely with the Scottish press, including the BBC as their official mouthpieces. The press were able to attack Corbyn so easily because he was shite.
I don't disagree but SNP supporters make a big deal about it as well, and rightly so.

There's also more of a factor with the London based media - who didn't fully focus their attention on the SNP until very late on and left the Scottish media to do it (yes still biased - bit without the level of hostility and weight that fleet street et al brings).
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14 hours ago, MixuFixit said:


Yeah but like, we have a better press than Turkmenistan and whatnot.

The print media is in severe decline as news stories are a day late at least and the columnists are self opinionated and do not reflect the views of the public.

As one poster said, 'There once was Blacksmiths'

Can't comment on the Turkmenistan press angle as I haven't been there.

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