The Master Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Premier Sports have confirmed that they will have 1st and 2nd picks from R4 onwards, with the BBC having 3rd and 4th picks. https://www.premiersports.com/football/scottish-football.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I hope someone publishes the figures Premier gets when they show the Final, when it's being broadcast, for free, by the BBC. If the number is three figures or higher then they're at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: I hope someone publishes the figures Premier gets when they show the Final, when it's being broadcast, for free, by the BBC. If the number is three figures or higher then they're at it. Premier won't particularly care about the figures for the final. The value for them is in the exclusive games. Even advertising isn't an issue because space is sold to agencies who then fill it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 16 hours ago, The Master said: Premier won't particularly care about the figures for the final. The value for them is in the exclusive games. Even advertising isn't an issue because space is sold to agencies who then fill it. They must have managed decent numbers for the CL qualifiers they've shown, otherwise they'd not have bothered with the Scottish Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugen_power Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: They must have managed decent numbers for the CL qualifiers they've shown, otherwise they'd not have bothered with the Scottish Cup. Premier Sports 1 HD was free on Virgin Media through the summer as a preview thing (possibly on sky too?)...perhaps not a good indication, cos I know I watched a couple of Hibs and Rangers games just cos it was on and free Edited November 26, 2018 by mugen_power 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 22 hours ago, Poet of the Macabre said: I hope someone publishes the figures Premier gets when they show the Final, when it's being broadcast, for free, by the BBC. If the number is three figures or higher then they're at it. Do the BBC have UK-wide rights for the final, or just Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, bendan said: Do the BBC have UK-wide rights for the final, or just Scotland? The rights won't be restricted to only Scotland, insofar as they'll be able to show it on satellite and online. But that doesn't necessarily mean they can actively show it outside of Scotland - there being a difference between someone in England/Wales/NI watching on BBC1 Scotland on satellite, and sitting down to watch it on their own version of BBC1/2. When the BBC had the SPL (as-was) rights, they only bought UK-wide rights for four of their 38 games a season (guess which four), with the rest being strictly Scotland-only. That led to the hilariously farcical situation of people with Sky getting a message telling them to tune to terrestrial because there was no way of restricting the Satellite broadcast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 On 27/11/2018 at 08:47, The Master said: The rights won't be restricted to only Scotland, insofar as they'll be able to show it on satellite and online. But that doesn't necessarily mean they can actively show it outside of Scotland - there being a difference between someone in England/Wales/NI watching on BBC1 Scotland on satellite, and sitting down to watch it on their own version of BBC1/2. When the BBC had the SPL (as-was) rights, they only bought UK-wide rights for four of their 38 games a season (guess which four), with the rest being strictly Scotland-only. That led to the hilariously farcical situation of people with Sky getting a message telling them to tune to terrestrial because there was no way of restricting the Satellite broadcast. It would be interesting to see the exact terms of the deal. The Scottish cup final is only reserved for terrestrial broadcasting in Scotland, so I wonder if the contract with the SFA is UK wide or not. Back in 2002 when the BBC had SPL rights, Setanta had rest-of-UK rights for games, and, I think, enforced some kind of restriction of BBC satellite broadcasts. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11901605.BBC_backs_down_in_satellite_SPL_row/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 At least it appears they're putting a little bit of money into the presentation. Some of the coverage for their one off games in the past has been bare-bones to say the least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome John Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) They have the same producer for Scottish Cip as BT has for the SPFL, Sunset & Vine. It was always likely that they would use the similar production values on Premier Sports, if not the same presenting team. I imagine none of the on screen team have exclusive contracts. Edited January 10, 2019 by Handsome John 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 We've got two all Premier League replays this week and neither are on TV. Are replays not covered in the deal or is it a case of only when at least one of the Old Firm is involved? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: We've got two all Premier League replays this week and neither are on TV. Are replays not covered in the deal or is it a case of only when at least one of the Old Firm is involved? Can't be shown this midweek due to the European games on TV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Can't be shown this midweek due to the European games on TV.Not true. They can be shown with permission of UEFA but it’s not worth it for broadcasters as not enough people in Scotland will chose the replays over Champions League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I thought that agreement between UEFA and the leagues had expired but spent a bit of time digging about and it seems it was replaced with a new one a few months after the previous one had expired in 2017. Such a shite rule since UEFA competitions now take up so many midweeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PB1994 said: Not true. They can be shown with permission of UEFA but it’s not worth it for broadcasters as not enough people in Scotland will chose the replays over Champions League. My understanding is that unscheduled matches can be shown live, ie cup replays and rescheduled league postponements. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 hours ago, kingjoey said: My understanding is that unscheduled matches can be shown live, ie cup replays and rescheduled league postponements. Only with the permission of UEFA. But this only applies to league games - the Memorandum of Understanding is with the EPFL. I suspect that national cup games are governed more formally through each national FA's membership of UEFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 hours ago, kingjoey said: My understanding is that unscheduled matches can be shown live, ie cup replays and rescheduled league postponements. Matches cannot be scheduled to even be played on UEFA dates - ie the SPFL would not be allowed to schedule a matchweek in this midweek (or most other midweeks between now and April). Unscheduled matches are allowed to be played on these dates, but are still not allowed to be televised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Matches cannot be scheduled to even be played on UEFA dates - ie the SPFL would not be allowed to schedule a matchweek in this midweek (or most other midweeks between now and April). Unscheduled matches are allowed to be played on these dates, but are still not allowed to be televised. Unless you're a big enough league and can suck up the penalties for doing so (or reach an agreement...maybe...who knows). https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11931538/man-city-vs-west-ham-rearranged-for-february-19-and-live-on-sky-sports (Ignore the bit about the agreement being scrapped; it was replaced by a broadly similar one) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Pompey v Exeter in the Checkatrade Trophy on live tonight same time as Chumps League 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Pompey v Exeter in the Checkatrade Trophy on live tonight same time as Chumps LeagueNon-top flight games don't count. I seem to remember at least one Challenge Cup game being broadcast on Alba against the Champions League a few years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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